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Picked Up This Engelhard 20-Oz

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 Posted 04/09/2011  2:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I go in my local shop just browsing and the dealer told me he just got this 20oz Engelhard. I've never heard of that specific size so I asked to see it. I thought it was really interesting so I picked it up today. I asked him if he wanted to do an old fashioned trade (I get a slight discount). He thought about it and said sure. I gave him my watch (old Movado) and he offered $100 for it. I walked out paying $760 no tax.

Question to the forum - Are these 20oz bars normal? I don't see them to often online. Thanks for any input, advice or comments.

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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ayejay1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Engelhard came out with many oddball sizes. This bar is legit if that is your concern. A bar such as this one are certainly uncommon and usually fetch quite a premium.
I am not 100% sure, but I am fairly certain this style(poured) and size of bar were produced in the 1970's. I probably would not have left it at the shop either. Good buy.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was told, once upon a time, the poured ingots were for the jewelry industry for melt and silver jewelry manufacturing. Anyone know the real reason they were poured as opposed to a nice shiny proof-like ingot?
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Most of the larger bars were poured. The shiny, proof like surfaces are from machining/polishing after pouring/cooling.

20 oz Engelhards are nice and the price was fair at $41/oz silver.
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Anyone know the real reason they were poured as opposed to a nice shiny proof-like ingot?


Heck of a lot easier. Next step up the line was extruded, then struck. IIRC, California Crown Mint was the first to strike anything bigger than an ounce, in 1980.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love these bars
Have a few of these in 50oz
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 Posted 04/09/2011  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bmanofnbc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, my birthday isn't until June but you can mail that sucker to me any time you are ready!
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I like the old school trading with the watch. Classic old west days
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Man, that is 20 oz of sweeeeeet silver, makes me wanna !
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Nice looking bar indeed and I would'n tbe surprised if it sold for a premium!
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Yeah pretty good price it would bring, you figure 820 bucks worth of spot silver, and being nice older rare bar, good quality trusted name, perhaps a grand on ebay....
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They were also not nice and shiny because collecting raw silver was not very popular from a collecting/investing standpoint. Most silver bars were produced with manufacturing, and with jewelers in mind. My father worked in a factory for years making engine bearings that had silver ingots in the 25 to 100lb range. Yes, Pounds! Imagine having one of those for a nightstand.
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If that bar brought $1000 with no market change, I'd be getting rid of it and putting the profit back into more ounces of non-premium silver.

Come on, it's a block of metal, not some rare collectable. Not even particularly attractive.
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder biggfredd....and I'd LOVE to be-holdin' that bar!
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Rather it than 25 ounces of ATB coasters?
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My father worked in a factory for years making engine bearings that had silver ingots in the 25 to 100lb range. Yes, Pounds! Imagine having one of those for a nightstand. ayejay


Yep. Now imagine some burglar walking right past it to take an old $50 TV or stereo.
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