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How Do I Grade A Coin Like This?

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I find it really hard to grade coins. I think I'm often too "kind" and put it one step higher than it should. So if anyone as small tips about what to look for when grading a coin.

It's even harder when I got a coin like this Tunisian 5 Centimes from 1907.

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To me this looks like a very nice coin. To me it's a XF, because the details are very clear and pure and you can the all the details in the leaves and read the text without problem (nothing's smeared). I'm not sure if ANYONE here would agree with me though How would you grade it, and why?


Here comes the problem. When I turn the coin around, I face this side:

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Now, belive it or not but it IS the same coin! I would grade this side to F - barely! I don't know what you'd say, but it's really worn and just a few details are visuable.

So, if I have one side XF and the other side F (or whatever your grading would be. We can at least agree that it isn't the same grade on both sides), what would the grade for the whole coin be?

Thanks
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 Posted 04/15/2011  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oops no photo showing.
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Sorry bout that, having problem with hige pictures and tiny-tiny pictures.
Hope the pictures are showing now!
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Photos are showing now. I am sure someone will come along shortly and help you.
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This coin is two graded, with differing grades obverse and reverse. In fact, for any coin to be graded properly, both sides should be graded.
Any detracting remarks are then made to qualify the grading.

In this case you have shown the obverse as the second image. You own grading assessment is OK by me.

The grading assessment, using your own grading is
"F / XF"
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Oh, sorry about the mix-up, I just wanted to start with the good side

Cheers!
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 Posted 04/17/2011  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with your assessment of the coin. I wonder though how a coin could have such dramatic differences. Was the reverse a weak strike and thus wore really fast or did someone purposely 'rub' this down - maybe because it was in French? . I suspect we will never know but very interesting nonetheless
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This is fairly common with Tunisian coins of the period. Why? Cant't help, I just keep on looking for unworn examples, but it's hard.
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 Posted 04/17/2011  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one I recently parted company with:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MESOX:IT
Again you can see the extreme wear pattern on one side only.
I'll post the pics of its replacement when I get a chance.
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Yeah, it might be because it's in French! I didn't even think of that. I think I have another one that isn't that worn on the obverse/reverse/French side. If I'm right I'll post a pic!
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 Posted 04/17/2011  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All right, I found it!

But first, because of my 1907 coin is XF on one side and F on the other, can I say that in totalt it's a VF?

OK, here's my other coin, it's still 5 Centimes and dated 1308/1891!
(But what I don't understand is how the 10 Centimes fron ebay could be dated 1310/1892, very strange )

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 Posted 04/17/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the changes of year as listed in Krause:
1309 1891, August 7
1310 1892, July 26
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 Posted 04/17/2011  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems like coins with the the AD date 1892 is both bearing the AH date 1309 and 1310.
Don't know how the Hijjrah calender works, if it somewhere is overlapping the Gregorian calendar?

And also, between my coins is the difference 16 years in AD and 17 years in AH, so somewhere something's wrong yeah?
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