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1st of all sorry for post it on coin forum but I didn't know how to post on the paper money forum !.
Very good friend of mine is having some financially problems and is selling a big collection of paper money and coins so I'm trying to help ! He show me some old coins and bills , money from Hawaii different states and this 1000 $ bill that I'm trying to find out if is real . All I can say is the bill looks printed by these old press just like a really old news paper and have a citizens bank stamp on the back !
My question is : is it real or not ?
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I know it looks like fake but I don't know much about paper money , and I'm asking because I ll be making a auction here soon with there coins because I saw her today and she told me that her mom whent last week to a dealer with a cigar box filled with Morgans ,halves , bn,and LWC and the dealer paid only for the silver and 2.5 per the pennies so I told her she should let me know before but now I ll do my best to help them with what is left then she told me they only sold one safe and they still have 2 more on the bank so maybe they ll do fine but let's back to the bill any info about this bill ? Thanks in advance !
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These packet watches were together with the stuff they sold to the coin dealer just to have a idea of how old the coins were !
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1st of all sorry for post it on coin forum but I didn't know how to post on the paper money forum !.


You've posted in many different forums here; Paper Money is no different than the others.
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I have a few CSA notes that are legit. This one looks similar however, it could have been aged to look like this. Let's let some real experts chime in ;-)
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I think it's a novelty note.
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I can't make out the serial number from the pics but I have seen lots and lots of old $1000 novelty notes with 8894 as the ser#. What is the number on that one?
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Serial 8894 btw I think my self it's fake but I don't know much !
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If it's # 8894 you now know for sure it's a novelty note.
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I went to a pro in bills today and he told me about this 8894 serial number but he also said that the paper on this note is the exactly paper used at the time so he asked me to live the bill with him and go back there in couple days to have a final and acurat answer ! Still has some hope , any updates I ll post here !
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Ricardocody,
If your pro in bills thinks it's real I have one with the same kind of paper, he can have it for $ 100.00
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The watches are very cool! How long have you had them?
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I went to a pro in bills today and he told me about this 8894 serial number but he also said that the paper on this note is the exactly paper used at the time

He is not much of a "pro" if he cannot figure out that the note is a replica with nothing more than a two second glance, that is a common-as-dirt replica right down to the tell-tale artificially aged paper and 8894 serial.

Also, think about this- why would there be a modern bank rubber stamp inking on the back of a note that is supposed to be 170 years old
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That day I went to 2 different people seeking for info on that bill the 1st said the whole story about the fakes with this serial number but he also said the paper looks real but could not say if was fake or not without spend some time with the bill but he was busy and couldn't The guy who I left the bill with is a coin collector not paper money collector but his partner is the one who's pro in bills ! I gave the coin expert the bill to pass to his partner who was not there so the bill ll be checked ! I'm working a lot these days and didn't have chance yet to get the bill back ! My own opinion is the bill is fake but I'm not expert so I did what I could to trying to help the bill's owner ; remember the bill is not my ! Anyway when I have time we ll know what we are sure ! For me don't really matter if is fake I'm not loosing any but would make me happy for my lady friend who the bill's belong to !
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I really don't think the bill is a fake or a counterfeit. I don't think anyone made it up with the intention of fooling anyone into thinking that it was real.

It's nothing more than a novelty note, not much different than a Bill Clinton $ 3.00 bill.
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It is not a fake, it is a novelty replica. There is a big difference between the two- one is meant to be a clever deception while another is only for show and tell. That is why I say anyone with a cursory knowledge of currency should be able to see that it is indeed a replica. As a kid, I purchased one at a small town yard sale in the early 1980s but even as a budding YN I knew it was only a replica. Of course, that didn't keep me from flashing it around the grade school like I was a high roller

I had a good laugh this evening when I went to my local shop's Monday Night Bid Board. I was looking at the lots for next week when I came upon lot 57- it was good ol' 8894
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I've seen a few with advertising on the back of them for Pizza houses, Beer joints, etc, and some with nothing on the back so you could stamp your own thing on it, but still an obvious novelty note.
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