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Buying The Coin Not The Slab...

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 Posted 04/24/2011  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This goes to show why I don't like buying slabbed coins. That and the fake slabs that are circulating from China like crazy. Most people don't want to break into a slab, and with these fakes, its the only way to know for sure if its a good counterfeit. Unfortunately, the counterfeiters are getting good.


More true than many think. Counterfeited slabs are now the latest fad from places like China. And why not? As noted most people will hesitate to even open some slabs so will never know they are fakes.
And I still remember a dealer showing me a slab he opened and replace the coin with something completely different just to show people it can be done. So buying a slabbed coin today means very little anymore.
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 Posted 04/24/2011  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, vf, certainly not xf.

People tend to forget that grades are supposed to have a general overall "look" to be any given grade.
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 Posted 04/24/2011  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the pictures make it look like a VF/XF not choice XF. However, it's conceivable that it's a soft strike right? Perhaps the pictures don't indicate that there's lust nor the actual wear pattern. Also, yep...PCGS can definitely overgrade. I doubt that coin would ever CAC.
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 Posted 04/24/2011  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...

It doesn't look softly struck to me. It just looks textbook VF I guess, referring to what biggfredd posted. The huge flatness on the reverse corn seems to tell me that its wear to a high extent, as well as the lack of luster and relatively sharp impression. What gets me the most is how much they give out free passes on oft-problem coins like Seated Liberty dollars just because so few of them are original, because then ignorant buyers will just buy problem coins for full price. And I don't mean minor dipping or a 'gentle old cleaning' either. I have no problem with a lower standard, but the level they sink to can be absurd at times.
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