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Ancient Fortress/City/Nation In The Ocean Near Asia?

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The ancients forum seems to be the best suited for this question.

A few years back I was reading about a fairly large lost city/sea side fortress type of thing that was off the eastern coast of an Asian country. It was abandoned many years ago and was surrounded by impressive walls of solid stone tilted vertically (if memory serves). The fortress/city was all stone and sits very low in the water...I think water even flowed though the walls.

There were even a few photos on maps.google.com and I remember them very clearly.

This area has NOT been developed into a tourist attraction, it does not seem easy to get to.

Does anyone know know the name of this area or were it is?
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 Posted 04/30/2011  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collecta83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1768109.stm

Is that what you're looking for? Never heard of it until I read your post. Interesting stuff!

"Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old."
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Wow, that's quite a find. Very interesting!

However, not what I'm talking about. This was not 120 ft of water. It was more like a small island that had been seriously fortified maybe 5-700 years ago. The structures were still mostly covered in jungle and it was quite close to a larger body of land. I can't say if it was a larger island or the mainland.

My memory thinks it was in SE asia...and definitely off the east side of the larger landmass. Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia are likely candidates.

Thanks for the suggestion!
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No problem! I love this stuff!
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Wait until you see the photos of this place...imagine, it had walls that looked like Stonehenge. I think in one areal photo it showed that it was rectangular in shape...but again, it's been two, three years and my memory is getting a little fuzzy on the details.
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http://mystiquearth.blogspot.com/20...elanggi.html

Kota Gelanggi? There are some satellite images that looks like it's covered in jungle.
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Yes, it's covered in jungle...but it's also in the MIDDLE of the jungle!

Imagine something like the Republic of Tuva's "House of Clay" Island Fortress in Russia but again, I'm searching for a site in Asia and covered in jungle...and a WHOLE lot more very large rocks.
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Check out this one: Janjira Fort in India. NOT it...but has a lot of the same characteristics. The one I'm looking for is smaller, not in India and I'd guess, quite a bit older.
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I assume the Yonaguni monument has a bit too much water for you, too.

There were several forts built by the Portuguese and Dutch in Indonesia that might fit the description, though I haven't found specific reference to one built on a small island by itself. Spice Island forts usually were built on larger islands, defending the spice plantations.
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Hahhahaa...yes Sap, thanks for the contribution!

Spice Island forts...I'll have to look into that.
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Janjira Fort reminds me of Alcatraz, in an isolation sort of way.
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This reminds me of the William Pené DuBois novel, "The Twenty-One Balloons", written for middle-schoolers. It's a fantasy about an island full of diamonds being blown away when Krakatoa erupted in 1883.
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There is something here that reminds me of the legend of http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/dra.../page17.html The Bells of Aberdovey - but that site is rather heavy reading!

But what is Aberdovey doing in the Roman section? Simple, Aberdovey is only a couple of miles from http://www.roman-britain.org/places/maglona.htm Maglona now known as Pennal.

Anyone interested in Roman Britain might find the second website quite interesting.

Bill.

PS I'll have to work on inserting links properly!
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As crazy as it sounds, I'm still working on this lil mystery...
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My mention of Cantre Gwaelod off the coast of Wales might be legend, but legends often have a trace of fact behind them. At certain states of the tide, remains of a plantation/forest can be seen, and the "coast road" of only a couple of centuries ago ran through what is now sea. There is much coastal erosion in the area.

I'm hoping that someone can come up with a location in east Asia.

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Here is a link to the one off south-east India.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/so.../1923794.stm

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