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I posted this coin in the Main Coin Forum prior to posting it here. The reason being - it had some kind of stuff on it, and I didn't know how to remove it (please review the before scans in that section of the forum).After about a six hour soak in distilled water, and a pat dry with a cotton ball, this is the end result. I'm thinking it is in the neighborhood of VF-20 or 25; however, the soak lifted some of the surface dirt, and now you can see those nasty little scratches indicating an earlier cleaning - probably when they got the stuff on the coin and tried to clean it off - who knows?I will appreciate any and all comments as to the grade of this one. Thanks. Ralph Image:  1888 Morgan.jpg95.53 KB Image: 1888 Morgan Rev.jpg93.61 KB |
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Ralph: You did a very good job of cleaning the gunk off of this one! I wonder what the long term affects will be of using the distilled water, if any? As for grading...there are some nice details...feathers look great, however the breast feathers are worn and the cap is worn on the ob. Ofcourse, the cleaning revealed the scratches and that's the down side to cleaning off the gunk. I'll agree with your VF20-25 estimate but, will leave any further grading to the Morgan collectors here as they are difficult to grade IMO (for me anyway). Good job!  |
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Debbie,
I have to agree that it does look better with the stuff removed - warts and all.
As for the distilled water - I used it rather than tap water as I suspect tap water contains chemicals that might harm the surface of the coin.
Yes, I agree the Morgans ARE a hard lot to grade accurately. That's why I come here so often with my little hoard. I can pretty well come close in the G-4 through F-12, but above that I try to get other's opinions to see if my estimation is close, and, if not, the members generally tell me why their opinion is different than mine. Great learning experience for me.
Ralph
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Ralph,
I had to check on your Morgans condition. WOW!! You did a great job. Looks very very good. I have some that need tender loving care. Maybe you should hire out.
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Ralph: I totally agree with your decision to use distilled water - oh absolutely. I was just wondering what water of any kind would do in the long run...increased toning and so forth. I just don't have the answer. Maybe our chemical folks will chime in. Maybe Morgan Fred/Morgan Man/Bryan/TLS and our other Morgan aholics will see this post for grading. I sure hope so!
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At best, regular tap water can leave mineral deposits on a coin, rendering it more "dirty" than before it was used. At worst, remember most tap water is chlorinated and chlorine is bleach.
I can buy VF25 for a strict grade for that coin.
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Silver Dollar - this is my first attempt at cleaning a coin, and, really, I didn't do anything but put it in the water, and pat it dry. Although this experiment turned out positive, I'm still reluctant to clean coins in general. Had this one not been in the condition it was.....
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Deb - I've no idea of the long term effect water has on silver coins. Reckon, if I'm around long enough, I'll be able to share what it did to this one.
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Yep Dave, that's why I was reluctant to use tap water. Didn't know what it might do, but I figure the city treats the water before it comes out of my tap, so I went with the distilled (bottled) water.
Now, have you experienced, or heard of anyone else who has experienced, an adverse reaction to a coin soaked in distilled water?
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Originally posted by Ralph
Yep Dave, that's why I was reluctant to use tap water. Didn't know what it might do, but I figure the city treats the water before it comes out of my tap, so I went with the distilled (bottled) water.
Now, have you experienced, or heard of anyone else who has experienced, an adverse reaction to a coin soaked in distilled water?
No, if only because people who reach the point of using distilled water to rinse their coins have done the due diligence required to learn to do it right. Me, I use acetone as the final rinse. Pure acetone is far "cleaner" than all but triple-distilled water, and far more volatile so it evaporates almost instantly. Edited by SsuperDdave
10/21/2006 3:51 pm
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