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Any thoughts on these? Are they what they're hyped up to be? They're dirt cheap compared to a high priced lens but are they effective?
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Extension tubes work but you'll have to increase the amount of light to get a decent exposure.
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There was a time you could get a "bayonet" mount for your camera lens to convert any lens into a macro. You simply screwed of the sloped or beveled ring on the front of the lens, screwed on the bayonet fitting, then attached the inverted lens to the camera like any lens. You had to do everything in manual mode but who cared; better than paying 1000 bucks for a macro lens. I even used the technique with an old Nikon 5005. I only shot in direct sunlight though.
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Extensions are very effective but they make your lens macro-only when in place, with very little adjustment range. You will need to get pretty close to the right length for a given framing. You also need to make sure the insides of the extensions are well-matted, since light reflecting off them will hit the sensor and reduce contrast. What length lens are you using? The longer the lens, the longer the extensions so you will probably need to buy a couple sets at least. If you are trying to frame a dollar, with a 50mm lens, this is not so bad. If you are trying to frame a cent with a 180mm lens, you're going to need a lot of extension! There are formulas to figure out how much extension you need, but keep in mind you will want to have the correct framing with the lens focus setting near the middle of the range when the magnification is set correctly for desired framing in order to keep a little wiggle room on focusing. You also lose communication between camera and lens with the less expensive extensions.
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I'm using an 18-55mm lens. Here's the tube I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LNYTNG I've got the Canon Rebel XT 350D. At the price it will at least be worth a try. I think I may have problems with my physical set up though. Not sure if my copy stand is going to give me enough room to add that tube. I only have about 8" fully extended between lens and the coin as it is.
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The zoom lens will give you some flexibility in choosing the extension length. Does the lens "fall" into position at the 55mm or 18mm end of the range, or can you adjust it to where you want and it stays in place? The extensions will shorten your distance between lens and coin, so you will very likely be OK with your setup. Believe it or not it's harder to get farther away than closer...what I mean is that once you have something working, getting lower magnification requires you move farther away, which you can't always do. Higher mag requires you to move closer, which is almost always possible.
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I am supposed to go look at a Canon 500D (T1i) that a buddy of mine has, it has a 50MM lens and the factory 18-55mm lens. Sidekick-CA, how do you like your XT? the T1i is just about the same, just a few more MP (15MP instead of 10MP) and video capabilities (which I really do not need) but for the price they are selling it at I can buy this one for just a few more dollars than I could get the XT or XSi for. I have been looking at the 100MM lens but those things cost as much as the camera is going to cost and they are used. I know xshift has a 60mm lens with her XS or XSi (not sure which) and was also looking at them but wonder if this will do what I am wanting to do with coins as well, so when you try it out let us know how you like it
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My lens is adjustable and it stays in place wherever I put it, usually at 55mm. I use max extension of the copy stand as anything closer starts giving me focus problems. Thanks for that info. Sounds like I won't have any problems with my set-up then. Now I'm wondering if it may be too much macro! I shoot mainly Morgans and this is my first venture with a DSLR but it will an interesting experimentation. Guess I can adjust the lens focus as you suggested and trying varying the lens/coin distances. Not sure exactly what you meant by "well-matted". I recently added a lens hood at the suggestion of SD to try and reduce a grainy effect on reflective coins. Is that related?
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Yes, it's sort of related. When you extend the lens away from the camera, the light that would have hit the sensor not hits other things inside the camera or inside the extensions, and if it reflects and the reflected light hits the sensor the contrast is compromised. If you see a reduction in contrast (dark areas are not as dark as they should be) you may want to put some fleece or other material that will absorb the reflected light inside the extension. I call this "matting", not sure what others call it..."fleecing?"...Ray
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Hi Bryan and hope you're not getting ridda that JVC of your's. I still think mine is great for those macro shots. I just wanted an all-in-one, hence the DSLR and higher resolution. I've had it for a couple of weeks now and as you can see, still having fun experimenting with it but so far, think it's great ! Think it's only going to get better the more I learn how to use it. Take a look at https://goccf.com/t/86233 I posted a DSLR vs Point n Shoot photo with the same coin.
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Thanks Ray. Understand. Maybe I can compensate for that using some of the camera's custom adjustments. I know it has color/constrast parameters which can be changed according to what's needed. Don't know how effective they are as I've not tried using them
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Oh yes I don't think I will ever get rid of the JVC butt long as it still works. I did see your thread about dSLR vs Point and shoot and that is what made me realize I needed a better camera because when I started looking at my pictures (that I thought were fine for so long) I noticed that they look ok in the focal area but out around the edges they start to get soft, so I started looking for a dslr camera. Was looking at a XS like yours or an XSi and was getting ready to buy one when I was told a friend had a T1i he was wanting to sell for about the same price the XSi is selling for on ebay. He works weird hours so it will be this weekend before I can meet up with him to check it out but he said he would hold it for me until I made my decision as he hasn't really been trying hard to sell it, just told a few people about it
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