Further Info On This Bukhara Coin Please

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weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/02/2011 2:05 pm I had a moment of passion buying last week. I saw this coin listed on ebay and I have wanted an example from Bukhara for some time - so I bought. Now I want to find out more about it! I know that is not the best way to buy but, hey, sometimes you just do it! Here is what I believe I have but I would love either confirmation or clarification. KM70 Bukhara ~16mm 3.18g Silver What I don't know is which of the dates listed in Krause I have. Is this the 1301/1299, the 1301/1300 or the 1301. Clearly I can see the 1301 but since the picture in Krause is so bad (and actually doesn't even look like my coin) I'm confused. I know there are varieties so not having a matching picture doesn't bother me or should it? So any help on this would be greatly appreciated Edited by weavus135 05/02/2011 2:07 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2871 Posts	Posted 05/02/2011 4:15 pm I think the date is actualy 1351 (or possibly 1251) - the "0" is read as a 5 in arabic My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/02/2011 4:40 pm It was my understanding that this is a 0 and not a 5 as there is some note in Krause about the 5 being more of a J (or open 0) in some cases. It cannot be 1351 as Bukhara didn't exist (it was gone) in 1351. And that second digit has 2 humps/points making it a three as best as I can tell. But I'm open. Perhaps this is not a Bukhara coin at all? Could that be? and if not Bukhara, what might it be? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16810 Posts	Posted 05/03/2011 04:53 am Your coin is indeed from Bukhara, and 1301 is the correct reading for the date. Ordinarily, Bacchus would be correct about the reading of a numeral shaped like a Western "0". But in Bukhara, things were a little different, and "0" often really did mean "0". The Bukharan "5" often resembled a letter "J". Here is a zeno.ru example with the same date; on this example, one side has a standard Arabic dot-sized zero, the other side has the local O-shaped variant. Bukharan coins usually have the date on both sides - and sometimes, the dates are even a couple of years apart! - but the other side of your coin is so far off-centre that most of the second date is off-flan; all you can read is the "13". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2871 Posts	Posted 05/03/2011 07:23 am You learn something new everyday - thanks for that My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/03/2011 11:42 am thank you Sap. I need to look more closely to see if it indeed a 3 or a 2. I didn't realize that was a partial date. If it is a 3 then part of the question has been answered. It is not /1299. Of course if it is a 2 then the answer has been completely answered. I don't have the coin in front of me at the moment. Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 12:38 pm I took a look at this closer last night and I'm thinking the partial number is indeed a 1 and 2. Sap, for my edification (and hopefully not my embarrassment LOL), the partial date is on the tail end of the 'swoosh' - right? If that is the partial date, I don't see a second 'hump' on that second digit. I suppose the second one could have been a weak strike and has since been worn away. I have only a 10x magnification but I don't see it under that. Edited by weavus135 05/04/2011 12:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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