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 Posted 05/06/2011  9:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just purchased several Eisenhower dollar coins to finish out my collection there. I think I may lack one, but not sure yet until I get my order in. I know I got all the varieties at least.

I was looking at Peace dollars as well as I only have a few of those and I fear what it will cost me to complete out that collection, LOL. What I do have in that set though is in excellent condition.

All I lack in my SBA dollars are the clear S, Type II varieties.

I think though, I've busted my budget for coins for the month though.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats, I'm still looking for some decent "Peg Legs" and Type 2 1972s.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh boy, I'm afraid to ask, Peg Legs?
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 Posted 05/07/2011  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need 2 more to complete my set
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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 Posted 05/07/2011  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
StormStrikes:

From theikegroup.org.

Everything you would want to know about PEG LEG IKES!

http://ikegroup.org/PLSURVEY.htm

*Rob Ezerman has just published a new 500 plus page book on Ike's, " Collectible Eisenhower Varieties"-

If you collect Ike's (IMHO) this is a must have!

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 Posted 05/07/2011  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Great link chuckster. It took 2 cups of coffee for me to finish.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you chuckster for that link, I will definitely make use of it.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, just gleaning over the peg leg ike information, I see one 1976-S that looks to be a peg. Its either a peg or such a weak serif that I'll have to get it under some magnification to know. Well, I only 'thought' I had all the varieties and coins from the series. Back to the drawing board I shall go.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the wonderful world of Ike Varieties
They are very addicting as others on this forum can tell you

Terry
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 Posted 05/07/2011  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love the Ike, Peace, Morgan, etc. dollars because of the large field they have and it seems that if you get a good one, it stands out because of such and if you get a crappy one the same applies. But good Lord if I gave been able to get my head around all the varieties. I thought there was just the Type I & II's. I dont even want to know what awaits me when I focus more on the Peace and Morgans more.

But, on the bright side I am a bit more educated about it all which is a very good thing. I've been away from the hobby for a few years so I guess I got to get all updated and retrained now, LOL.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is what I used collect primarily was Morgan and Peace
Dollar VAMS. Then I thought I would put together a Dansco
of Eisenhower's thinking, short series not real expensive
and easy to find.
Then in researching the series I ran into the Ike Group
and being a variety hunter in the Morgan and Peace series
Boy did I take to the Ike Varieties.
When hunting VAMS I was going on what was already discovered
The amount of serious research on Ike's had just been to begin
in earnest and there was new variety's being discovered all
the time and still are. I really like being on the ground floor
of the beginning of the discoveries being made in a series.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, educate me a bit, but what are VAMS?
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 Posted 05/08/2011  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peace and Morgan Varieties

This link will explain better than me at this late hour

http://www.vamworld.com/
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 Posted 05/08/2011  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im going to say something here and it may or may not be a popular view but I'm more interested in the overall discussion than anything.

When I started collecting, I learned about the Type I and II's of the Ike dollars and SBA's and other 'major' type differences. Among that was also the occasional error coins. Those that were blank on one side, not completely stamped, and so on. This I all understood and to some extent you could quantify it.

Today I have learned of the Peg Leg Ikes and VAM's. Now I havent looked into the values of such coins and so I dont know if such variances cause a difference in prices but I suspect to some extent, particularly among those that are educated to recognize the differences as sellers and the buyers who also know of the differences, that the prices are influenced upward.

So my thought now is this; are we getting too nit picky? How can you ever possibly have a complete collection of anything with so many potential variances? How long before it comes to something like the mint mark is 2 microns too far to the left, thus this is an error coin? When looking through coins on ebay, I am almost always automatically weary of any dealer that has to magnify a coin several times to show a flaw of some kind. I tend to shy away from them because error to you, particularly at higher magnifications may not be to me or even possibly to a reputable coin dealer.

Maybe I'm being naive, or showing my inexperience in the hobby. Either way, at what point do we stop? When can I say I have a 'complete' collection of say Ike dollars or SBA's or any other coin?

Dont get me wrong, the Peg legs, VAM's and so on greatly interest me, I truly find that sort of stuff fascinating, but not to the extent that a whole new class layer is added to a collection or series of coins. I will certainly be looking for some way to get some high magnification views of my coins just because I find it that sort of stuff interesting. As an amateur photographer with an emphasis in not only storm photography but also macro photography, getting up close and more detailed is an interesting change of perspective from the normal 'larger/general' view of things. But I have a hard time getting my head around these whole other classes of coins that I could be on the look out for.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, just trying to start and be a part of interesting conversations.
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 Posted 05/08/2011  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mach1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a new collector. I decided to start with collecting Ikes because it was a short series, all coins except '71-'72 P&D are avaliable new in mint sets, and they are not overly costly. Besides all of that, I used to get them as a kid, and always liked them.

Thought I had it all figured out, then came the varities. Enough to melt the brain! Here's how I decided to handle the issue of varities of Ikes: Ignore them for now and work on finishing the traditional 32-coin set. After, I can decide if these other varities worth the effort.

I can see what you are saying about these nit-picky, microscopic differences in coins, and I somewhat agree. If you need a microscope to see it, does it really matter? I guess the best answer to the question is what collectors are willing to pay for these variances.
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 Posted 05/08/2011  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
StormStrikes;


I collect Ike's, but NOT the full traditional 32 coin set and I've gone through thousands of dollars of Ike's ($100.00 bags from my local bank weekly) so I could have put together a few sets easily.

I collect or at least try to collect all 1972P Type 2's, Doubled Dies/ Die Clashes/Peg Legs/and all 1971D "FEV'S" plus all SILVER Clad Ikes.

Enjoy and collect whatever you want, its your collection, YOU decide if and when its complete or not!


*As a strong recommendation, join THEIKEGROUP.ORG.

Can't get any better than the info/pics etc on that site (IMHO)

Good luck and Happy Hunting!

Chuck.







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