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Spanish-Philippine Coins

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 Posted 05/08/2011  11:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi! Nice to be back here... Posted some of my dad's coins. It will be a blast if the experts can give their opinions.

Pandesalapi - Got to meet Dr. Oropilla, had a great time talking to him. Also got a copy of his MUST READ book. Thanks a lot for introducing me to him!

Here's a Chile UN peso C/marked with an 1835 YII - (5-4-1) pearl formation. The 1835 c/mark is correct since the coin was minted in 1834, just wondering if you guys think this coin is real. Whats bugging is that the c/mark doesn't have the usual dent it inflicts on the coin (the circular shaped depression).
weight = 26.8 grams

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sides has laurel leaves that continuously follows the same direction. I don't see any overlaps, either it has none or the sides are just too worn out.
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1834 Zacatecas 8 reales C/marked an 1836 YII - (5-4-3) pearl formation. Looks like the edges overlap 180 degrees apart.
weight = 26.52 grams


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1759 mexico pillar dollar
what bugs me is the break in the upper left side of the shield. Edges overlap 180 degrees apart, changes direction
weight = 26.93 grams

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if you want more high res pictures just tell me THANKS
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05/08/2011 12:04 pm
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 Posted 05/09/2011  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Pandesalapi - Got to meet Dr. Oropilla, had a great time talking to him. Also got a copy of his MUST READ book.

True, he is a very pleasing person to talk to. We are scheduled for a meeting at National Museum this week. I am excited to his upcoming book about counterfeits.
Very nice coins you've got
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 Posted 05/10/2011  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! been a long time since I've been there. Maybe I'll also drop by the museum anytime soon. It's a bit funny that I've never noticed the coins in there before but now that I'm collecting coins I'm excited in finding out the coin collection in the museum.

Pandesalapi do you think all the coins I posted are real? Isn't the Zacateca a bit light? and why are the sides not even?

Hope Swamperbob takes a look. I'm interested in what he has to say.
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 Posted 05/10/2011  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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do you think all the coins I posted are real? Isn't the Zacateca a bit light? and why are the sides not even?

By the looks of the 5-4-3 pearl formation of the CS, I am sure its an original specimen.
Bob will surely give some of his specialty to be shared to us.
I am a bit concerned on the CS of your 1834 Chile... can you make a few more angled shots for us
By the way there will be another coin auction to be held this Sunday along Quezon Ave., you might want to take a look on some of their coins...
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 Posted 05/10/2011  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the insight Pandesalapi!
Here's some more pics of the CS as requested. A bit angled used a normal camera since someone used the better one.

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What do you think?
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 Posted 05/10/2011  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bayanihan collectors club? are you a member there pandesalapi? I'm thinking of going with my dad.
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 Posted 05/12/2011  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm cs are ok but we still have to wait for Swamperbob's opinion on the host coins.
There are a lot of coin groups here but I have not joined any at the moment. I was about to join a prestigious coin group years before but I was alarmed on some of the officers characters. Double set of officers etc... Thus I stayed neutral on some clashing opinions. What matters most is that I enjoy their company no matter what group there are in. After all its the hobby that we should always be concentrated in.
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 Posted 05/12/2011  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What matters most is that I enjoy their company no matter what group there are in. After all its the hobby that we should always be concentrated in.


I agree! its the excitement of collecting coins that's important. It's the same with my dad, he never joined any group. He's just focused on the hobby.

Mr. Swamperbob, Do you think any of the coins I posted are counterfeits?
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 Posted 05/12/2011  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beriner1 The 1834 Mexican coin looks real. The 1834 Zs coin is a crude strike and planchets were poorly made. The chip in the lower left corner of the cap is common on that year. The edge design and overlaps look good as well. But as for the counterstamp, I am not sure at all. The stamp is weaker than I am used to seeing. It could be real.

The 1759 Columnario does not look correct to me. The coin is edged POST "strike" and 1759 is very late in time. I would expect most 1759 coins should have been struck AFTER edging. I also think I can see some surface lumps near the D and V of the King's name. Finally the toning and wear look artificial. The edge design is close to correct but some segments appear to be slightly different lengths. I suspect it is a cast forgery but not too recent. The design appears to be a transfer impression that was then recut to strengthen the impression. The edging was done after the coin was cast to obscure the edge casting seam. I own several similar types. The SG usually discloses silver of the wrong alloy. Sometimes high most often low.

The Chilean coin is a type I do not collect. I am concerned with the color and texture of that coin because it resembles many of the counterfeit coins from China. The edge design is "peculiar" but since I do not know what it should look like I am unable to form an opinion about it. The C/S is quite heavy and to my eye does not look original. It may be real but I would check it against a good reference like discussed above.
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 Posted 05/13/2011  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beriner1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for taking a look swamperbob. Wow I think its nearly impossible to get a real dos mundos these days....

With regards to the chilean UN Peso. I saw some bumps in the surface (looks like a part of an unfinished letter) between the E and P, 12 o clock of the coin. another one in between the A and G in SANTIAGO. The weird thing is I found a coin in the net that was auctioned just this month that has the exact same bumps in the obverse! the only difference is the YII is on the other side. Also the reverse has the assayer IJ while mine has only the initials I.

Pls click the link to view the pictures.

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums...r1/bumps.jpg

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums...mpschile.jpg


Am I right that if a coin has uneven bumps then it has to be a fake?
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05/13/2011 1:09 pm
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