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The True Cost Of Silver

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Does anyone know how much it relatively costs to mine an ounce of silver? Also how they mine it?
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From everything I have read. Average cost is $5 an ounce to pull it from the ground. Also, there are not many pure silver mines. The mining companies are harvesting copper, nickel, and other metals. Silver is the byproduct of these mines. Some mines can report 0 cost for the silver, as the profits come from the primary metal they are mining, the silver is just extra.
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Cost of production is variable, is it on the surface, how high grade is the ore, how far away is your refining process, what labor and equipment costs do you have? There are literally tons of low grade silver in the mountains of Colorado. The problems are high altitude, weather,(including deep snow) water build up and even sulfuric acid that will eat your skin and machinery. Still the recent silver surge has interested some of these claim owners.
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Interesting enough. I didn't think there was pure silver mines.
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Great thread. I know very litte about this stuff, so I find threads like this to be very beneficial!
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$5-$6 ounce for silver. On that same scale is oil at $8-$9 barrel. Production cost to retail price is often 500 to 1000% markup.

I worked for 20 years in manufacturing and saw this everywhere. I worked for several years in a bearing plant where we made ball and roller bearings for $2-$3. Those same bearing sell at NAPA and Autozone for $20-$30.
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Note that finding cost is a major contributor to high prices. Exxon has about 360B in revenue but only 35B in profit. They literally have armies of scientists combing the world for new sources of supply. Hence, even if Exxon were non-profit, we would see at best perhaps a 10-20% decrease in fuel costs. In practice, though, I think most not for profit companies lose in efficiency what they gain by sacrificing the profit. Hence, if the federal government took over oil production I doubt we'd see any significant decrease in cost.
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From everything I have read. Average cost is $5 an ounce to pull it from the ground. Also, there are not many pure silver mines. The mining companies are harvesting copper, nickel, and other metals. Silver is the byproduct of these mines. Some mines can report 0 cost for the silver, as the profits come from the primary metal they are mining, the silver is just extra. - Ayejay

Exactly right. Some of the bigger gold and silver producers are the copper miners. Both gold and silver are by-products of copper mining and processing. Considering the large tonnages of copper ore that are processed, upwards of 300,000 tons per day, it doesn't take much gold or silver in that ore to amount to quite a lot. Some of the copper miners pay all of their mining costs from the gold and silver they recover, so the copper is ALL profit.
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Interesting enough. I didn't think there was pure silver mines.

Ever hear of The Comstock Lode? That was the biggest silver strike ever and practically all of it was from pure silver ore mines.

These days, most silver does come as a by-product from copper ore processing but there are still some silver ore mines. The Hecla Mining Company in Idaho produces both silver and gold ores, which are then processed into metal.
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Haven't heard of anyone hitting the "mother lode" recently. I'll bet they're still out there lurking around convergence zones of tectonic plates. Sure would be great to find one though.
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Haven't heard of anyone hitting the "mother lode" recently.

No, me neither. If we think about it, though, there is 3x as much Earth under water as there is above water so there could be some HUGE silver and gold deposits out there that have never been found because finding them is too difficult. Much better technology could help fix that. If we can drill for oil in deep water, we ought to be able to figure out how to mine there as well.

Further down the road, we have a HUGE resource orbiting the Earth. It is only 1/6 the mass of the Earth but it is 100% dry land, so is only somewhat smaller than the dry part of the Earth. Mining on the moon should be feasible because the moon should be similar to the Earth in geologic terms, there is a lot of solar energy available, and we should find water, oxygen, iron, and many other useful things for building lunar cities and mining complexes.

After that come the asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. Imagine finding an asteroid that weights about a billion tons and contains a few % silver or gold! That would be some SERIOUS PM tonnage!

I think of things like this whenever I read a web site that claims that we are running out of silver or gold or some other resource. We're not. What we are running out of is the stuff that is easiest to get at. There are still HUGE supplies of most elements available to us if we will just get after them.
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CANNINGTON silver mine.

This mine is currently the largest silver producing mine in the World, and has a projected life on current reserves of about 20 years.

Something like 22,000 tonnes of silver throughout the World are mined annually, and the Cannington Mine produces roughly 6% of this.

There is quite a large proportion of silver production that is recovered from industrial processes, to be re refined, and re used.

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After that come the asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. Imagine finding an asteroid that weights about a billion tons and contains a few % silver or gold! That would be some SERIOUS PM tonnage!


Earth faces destruction by asteroid hit tuesday
Space PM mining co miscalculated when steering it to earth

Put your head between your legs and KYAG.
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Earth faces destruction by asteroid hit tuesday
Space PM mining co miscalculated when steering it to earth

Put your head between your legs and KYAG.

LOL! Yeah, Fredd, I can see the media headlines now, "Meteor will destroy the Earth at 10:17 PM tonight... film at 11 PM".
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This is funny.

I was just getting into the mood of imagining sitting there with the girl, wondering:

"Where the heck is the Moon?"



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Well at $10,000 a pound to get into low earth orbit (getting to the moon would of course cost even more), I don't see silver mining on the moon being profitable, even if the moon had huge silver deposits (which I doubt). Underwater mining might be the ticket though, if you could find some very nice deposits.
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