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So, Are We About To Have A Postal Strike Here?

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 Posted 05/12/2011  3:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been hearing rumors that we may be having a Canada Postal Strike very soon. Has anyone else heard about this?

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 Posted 05/12/2011  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, sure hope it's only a rumour? However, if they do strike, the Posties are worth their weight in Gold. In the 7 years I've been on E-bay resulting in the 2,000+ transactions I've done via mail, I've never lost a coin, nor been disappointed in their service.
Think about it, just to start your car takes a dollar's worth of gas. You can mail a coin in a bubble wrap envelope across Canada for half that price! Where can you get that kind of service on anything you do on this Planet?

I love Canada Post!

Glenn
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 Posted 05/14/2011  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are not in a rush glenzy. The only thing slower that Canada Post is walking.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My mail lady told me in April that they were taking a strike vote...They had to put if off because of the Federal Election...Cannot have a postal strike during an election..Now they can vote on it...We will have to wait and see what happens....
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 Posted 05/14/2011  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdcoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personnally would love them to strike and stay out say one full year.They are all overpaid and our costs in Canada are ridiculous compared to the USA.By the way,mailmen are working on Saturdays in the USA and till 6 PM on week days.With their union,you will never see that in Canada unless they get paid TRIPLE time.Have you seen a year without an increase?Home delivery should be abolished.A little walk has never kill anyone.Well no bill to pay for a year is not that bad.Thinking about it,they would think of a way to work around a strike.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting Love "em vs Hate 'em comments about our postal services here

I think service depends on the mail carrier, the post office workers and management, and murphy's law, myself.

As for no services at all, ouch! I'd rather have bad services than none at all because I personally need them. So would lots of people, elderly, disabled, workers who can't leave work to get their mail, yada yada. Lots of people still get and send hard copy and packages mail that can't be sent through cyber space

I've had some serious problems with mail delivery issues at times, mostly related to particular home mail service carriers, or thieves close to home or somewhere between sender and me route.

Sometimes there have been issues of carriers not delivering the mail at all. Too lazy or something, and they take it home or toss it. Sometimes some post offices (recently) have held onto mail when a worker goes on hoiday or is off sick, so the mail doesn't get delivered, and when they return to work they are inundated with a huge backlog of undelivered mail they have to deal with delivering BECAUSE that post office refused to hire a fill in (I understand its illegal for post office to do that, withhold mail!)

I'm old enough to remember mail coming on Saturdays, 6 day delivery weeks. That would be nice to have back again!

Anyways, currently I have mail/packages coming and going, enroute now, so I hope they reach their destinations before a strike, as I have no idea how long these things can run.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rodime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I personnally would love them to strike and stay out say one full year.They are all overpaid and our costs in Canada are ridiculous compared to the USA.By the way,mailmen are working on Saturdays in the USA and till 6 PM on week days.With their union,you will never see that in Canada unless they get paid TRIPLE time.Have you seen a year without an increase?Home delivery should be abolished.A little walk has never kill anyone.Well no bill to pay for a year is not that bad.Thinking about it,they would think of a way to work around a strike.


Yes, things are so bad elsewhere, we should make it bad here too.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder what its like to be a mailman in North Korea
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 Posted 05/15/2011  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rodime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, Canadapost does a decent job providing a good service, especially considering how little support they have. Yes, they get paid more than a McJob does. And yes, they have a good pension. But they also "get" to walk all day... with 40-60lbs of uneven mail. They "get" to deal with dogs, angry tenants, accusations of theft, bad weather, poor job security (perpetual contracts), etc. And yes, they need very little training prior to getting in.

... but guess what? There isn't a single job in the trades that requires training before you get in. There are tonnes of private companies that hire based on family relations and not qualifications. There are tonnes of small businesses that discriminate against visible minorities. There are bad employers and there are good employers. Just because your job is terrible, or your pension isn't as good, doesn't mean you need to make life more difficult for folks who ruin their backs lugging around junk mail and useless flyers.

Considering public mail is a public service, and posties have EVERY opportunity to steal your mail, I don't think we should be cutting their pay. It's like teachers. And cops. You probably can find people to do the job cheaper. But you can't find people to do the job cheaper AND better. Crooked cops, lazy teachers ... that's what happens when you get a conservative government into power that cuts public service. Bad school system? Most people blame the teachers. I blame the lack of funding (You're not going to retain "good" teachers in the public system when the private is better in every way). Excessive ticketing going on? Many blame the police, I blame the lack of funding to police services (they've got to make up the cash somehow).

So cutting the postal service? Postal service isn't great right now. It's okay. But do you think making the job harder is going to improve the service? Let me ask it another way : If I told you that you needed to lose weight before you could have your choice of food ... that might work. But science (yes, behavioural psychology) has shown that the best motivation comes from provision, not from deprivation. If you disagree, you need to get some more school learning in ya. Or spend 30 seconds with google (Hint: Type "Is deprivation good motivation"). No matter what you believe (or what you've experienced), using a carrot is almost always better than using a stick.

If it wasn't for unions, we'd be forced to work 7 days a week by our employers. Just because you disagree doesn't change the fact that unions have done a lot of good.
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 Posted 05/15/2011  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdcoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it worked,I got some comments back.I figured that if I react the way I did I should.Love my mail lady.Also know that the unions have done some good but now they became too powerfull and workers fill the crunch with closures.The government employees are all unionized and the tax payers represented by leaders with no back bone see all their reventications passed on to us in the form of tax increase from the public sector.The mail stike if it happens will end in the same way.POSTAGE INCREASES.My point is we already pay too much taxes.
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 Posted 05/15/2011  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last I heard the price of service is going up a whole 2 cents. I'm quite glad with their decision. By comparison, I've only used a public pay phone once since the price doubled to 50 cents a couple of years ago. I don't use the post much, but 2 cents isn't going to break me. I like the mail and the services that they provide (provided they are not junk mail!).
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 Posted 05/15/2011  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Home delivery is discriminatory and a luxury we can't afford.
Better to use that manpower and resources to make our postal system more suitabl for the 21st century.
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 Posted 05/15/2011  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I live in the middle of a long road where I own a lot of property populated by .... me. Yet they still come out and deliver my mail to my roadside mailbox.

The drag is when I have to drive 20 miles each way to pick up a parcel, usually one that would fit in my mailbox. I mean they deliver Xpresspost to my door, but not a regular package? The outsourcing of that service means I get some mean spirited wench at Shopper Drug Mart giving me a hard time about what it is I'm supposed to pick up and why does my photo ID carry a "warning for viewers".

I see both sides of the coin but I think the postal model is antiquated and more of a delivery mechanism for the regular delivery of junk mail than anything else. I'd prefer they just cut home delivery altogether, stick with the superboxes and used the savings to expand post office hours and days.

The union is not entitled to hold these home delivery jobs in some type of job security grip... the jobs should be eliminated and the savings passed on in the form of increased services like decent pricing for small parcels under 454 grams or wherever the actual demand is.

I've personally dealt directly with more than one head of Canada Post though and their political masters have no stomach for any actual reform regardless if their wingnuts tighten left or right. They are all gutless cowards and the union smells the yellow and goes for gold.

Can't blame 'em at all.
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 Posted 05/15/2011  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always feel really sorry for all mail carriers that have to lug around and deliver a huge amount of junk mail that most people turf directly into their garbage or to recycling anyways. Wasted efforts and all that extra weight burdening the carriers. And like someone mentioned, there are safety issues and risks for the carriers. Some even get beaten while being mugged/robbed of their mail, or for being some kind of minority (race/gay/whatever) and after dealing with foot delivery in all kinds of weathers.

Mail carriers have my respect and most are great, and providing a great and important service and I don't blame the carriers for problems not their fault. I get cranky with those that are a problem though. Like I do with any dishonest or irresponsible employee that negatively effects the rest of the employees and services. Its a tough job with some high risks, so the higher their wages for them, the better I say I say the same for any employee in the front lines directly dealing with and trouble shooting customers.

And like waitresses and other front line customer servise jobs, the employees get all the flack for anything and everything that goes wrong up the line by someone or something else.

Meanwhile, at 57, home mail delivery has ALWAYS existed for my whole life and I'd hate to see it go. I'll bet stamp collectors would too?
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