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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: tape all 2x2 flips with 3M clear tape. Both plastic and cardboard ones. I wouldn't allow tape near anything collectable. I've seen anything from gummy to staining, to dry discoloration. "magic" tape seems to be better, but I wouldn't take chances.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: Im not sure what I'm going to do about the larger dollar coins other than perhaps use something like 2.5" flips. Crown size 2.5x2.5 are available at any supply wholesaler.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: just carl, got a question for you. Do you use the 3M tape on just three sides or do you go ahead and tape all four sides. Also, do you staple them and tape them or just tape them.
3 sides only. Not on the side that folds and no staples at all.Why spend the money on a stapler, staples and a pliers for just that. One dissavantage to using tape over staples. If not the actual size intended for specific coins, oversized flips, the coin has now more room to roam around. Of course this is pending on how a person handles their flips. Some people use only a certain sizes for coins. By that I mean some use Cent/Dime, Quarter/Nickel, Dollar/Half Dollar ones to save on excessive inventory. I know a dealer that uses only Dollar flips for all coins. Quote: I wouldn't allow tape near anything collectable. I've seen anything from gummy to staining, to dry discoloration. "magic" tape seems to be better, but I wouldn't take chances. As I do with most products I use for almost anything where danger could be possible. CONTACT THE MANUFACTURER. I do for tapes and found 3M clear tapes are non toxic, give off no fumes, do not leak out anything that could contaminate metals, etc. I don't take chances. I just call the companies for information.
Edited by just carl 05/14/2011 7:21 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
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3 sides only. Not on the side that folds and no staples at all.Why spend the money on a stapler, staples and a pliers for just that. One dissavantage to using tape over staples. If not the actual size intended for specific coins, oversized flips, the coin has now more room to roam around. Of course this is pending on how a person handles their flips. Some people use only a certain sizes for coins. By that I mean some use Cent/Dime, Quarter/Nickel, Dollar/Half Dollar ones to save on excessive inventory. I know a dealer that uses only Dollar flips for all coins.
One of the things I have been doing more of is using the Kointain round, clear protective holders and then put that inside the flip. The net effect is that coin doesn't move around and I have another layer of protection. In times past I've only done that on coins that were in particularly good shape, etc. However I've been more inclined to make it a matter of practice on all my coins. I recognize its probably overkill, an added expense, etc. I've considered it all I think. But I just feel better doing, knowing that I've taken an extra step or two to protect my coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: But I just feel better doing, knowing that I've taken an extra step or two to protect my coins.
Protecting, under protecting, over protecting coins is like what is done with many objects. Cars too are like that. Some people wash, wax, vacuum their cars every week. I knew a lady that did nothing, and I mean nothing, to her car for 4 years. Could hardly see out the windows. Some people spend almost as much money on coin protection as the coins are worth. Might be the reason some people have coins slabbed that are worth only a few dollars.
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Canada
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If I seal a flip with staples I believe it is air tight. Then when I slide it in a plastic page it then becomes even flatter over time. I do understand that staples don't look the best. That is why you should take extra care to make sure your apply them straight and in a consistent pattern on all your coins. As for using tape, my question is how does it look over time when dries up? Does it not discolour? I have seen some coin flips that have an adhesive pre applied so all you have to do is fold them. I do not use them because they are expensive. I believe they are made by Lighthouse and you can find them on line. What I would like to see in the future is white coloured staples. I would pay extra for them and I do think they would look a lot better than regular staples on coin flips.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I do not believe a staple would make anything air tight because that's not the purpose of a staple, they are just used to make two or more things stay together
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Canada
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The 2x2's were made to be used with staples. I don't see why they would not be air tight. They will hold the flip closed and pinch the plastic tight between the staple and the coin.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: One dissavantage to using tape over staples. If not the actual size intended for specific coins, oversized flips, the coin has now more room to roam around. Tape might keep air from getting into the 2x2, but so will a plastic box or 20-pocket sheet, without exposure to the chemicals in the adhesive. Where tape fails is that no matter how well you seal the edges, nothing prevents the coin from moving in the 2x2. If the coin moves from dead center, nothing stop it until it reaches the edge. Stapling and flattening the staples put pressure on the codbod, and the coin can't move. Even without the pressure factor, the coin can only move to the staple, far closer than the tape on the edge. Get a flat clinch stapler. They work with so little pressure that you can use fingertips instead of a hard hand squeeze.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Tape might keep air from getting into the 2x2, but so will a plastic box or 20-pocket sheet, without exposure to the chemicals in the adhesive.
Where tape fails is that no matter how well you seal the edges, nothing prevents the coin from moving in the 2x2. If the coin moves from dead center, nothing stop it until it reaches the edge As I mentioned, no chemicals in the tape I use that could effect any metal object. Or so the manufacturer claims and I have that conversation recorded. Tape does not fail if the correct size flip is used. There is no room for a coin to move if the correct size flip is used. Note that once you close the average cardboard flip, the coin almost forms with the mylar due to no room except for the coin. And too as I mentioned in the past, after stapling a 2x2, put your mouth to one of the ends and blow. You would see that your breath goes through. Not so with tape. AND one roll of tape lasts a long, long time.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: As for using tape, my question is how does it look over time when dries up? Does it not discolour? I have seen some coin flips that have an adhesive pre applied so all you have to do is fold them. I do not use them because they are expensive. I believe they are made by Lighthouse and you can find them on line. What I would like to see in the future is white coloured staples. I would pay extra for them and I do think they would look a lot better than regular staples on coin flips.
Interesting points. I have been using 3M tape for many years now and so far, no change in clarity or color. I too have seen old tapes on items that have turned a horrible brownish but so far not this type. Now I do like your suggestion of white staples. If it's something that bothers you to see metalic staples in your white flips, you might try covering them with WhiteOut. It is available at any office supply store. HOEVER, I would first contact the manufacturer to see if there is any harmfull fumes emitted during the drying period. WhiteOut, once try is really dry.
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New Member
United States
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I also like the clean look of clear tape without staples to seal cardboard/mylar flips. So far no problems with discoloration of tape or coins. With the right size flips, no problems with coins moving in the flips either.
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Valued Member
 United States
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just carl, I got another question for you. Do you have any pictures of your flips using the tape? I just want to have some sort of visual guide to go by I guess. Also, do you put your tape around the flip in one uninterrupted piece or do you just tape each of the three sided individually?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: just carl, I got another question for you. Do you have any pictures of your flips using the tape? I just want to have some sort of visual guide to go by I guess. Also, do you put your tape around the flip in one uninterrupted piece or do you just tape each of the three sided individually?
Really good quesetion since I seldom photo any of my collections at all. Only recently I've taken some of the more expensive coins in Albums but normally I never photo coins at all. However, you made me think. What if something ever happened to the collection? Who would believe what was there? With over 100 Albums alone, why would anyone believe that if no proof? Most are in 5 different safe deposit boxes so not an easy task to photo them. So today I think I'll start taking some of those photos. Another interesting note. I do put the tape on each side one piece at a time. This means that the very ends are not really sealed at the corners. I never thought of that before and now just one more new problem. It appears that there is always just one more way of things to get to our coins.
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Valued Member
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I experimented last night after getting home from work with just one continuous piece of tape. I was able to do it, then taking an exacto knife and cutting a slit in the tape at the corners, roughly a millimeter above the flip (so it would seal the corners) and then folding the tape down. It worked rather well. It is additional time in getting it all taken care of but that part I dont mind when it comes to my coins. I was using 3/4" wide tape, so it would work on just about everything except the larger coins and perhaps would require a little more attention to precision on coins like the half dollars, otherwise the tape hangs over a bit into the viewing window for the coin. But I think using 1/2" wide tape would solve that and then using 2-1/2" sized flips with that would solve everything else.
I was looking at CoinEdge holders last night as well and that could be an alternative, but I know nothing about those, so I may just order a couple of them and see what they look like, how big they are and so on.
Also, I have not taken any photos of my coins either. Though it is on the agenda to get done. I've been working on modifying a spreadsheet to keep track of everything and I plan on taking detailed pictures as soon as I can if for nothing else other than insurance purposes. My collection isn't as large as yours by any stretch, but I would like to have some kind of written and visual record of what I have.
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