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I've had these coins for some time. Bought them back in the 70s up in Seattle, WA, in a shop. The shop owner admitted they were not worth much. I thought he indicated they went out of circulation - a coin change.

Both coins are very similar. Copper I believe.

One side has what looks like a harp in the middle of the coin. Along one side is the date - small coin is 1967 and large coin is 1968. The other side has the letters: eIRe or elRe. Not sure if the 2nd letter is capitalized or small case. The "e" and "R" are easy enough to tell. The odd letter is either an "I" or small case "L".

On the large coin there is a bird in the center - looks to me like a chicken/rooster and behind the bird looks to be a baby - I would guess a chicken. The bird is standing on a "line" that is on the coin. Below the line are the letters "pingn" or "plngn" - the "g" is not a normal g - in fact maybe it is another "n". Above the bird is a "1d" (d is a superscript character on the coin).

The small coin is very similar except it has a sow with three piglets on the back and it as "leat" above what one finds on the larger coin. The number above the pig is 1/2d - again the d is superscript.

Anyone have any clue as to what these coins are? I wanted to guess they were from Britain, Ireland, Scotland, or something of that nature.

My guess they are worthless - but would like to know where they hail from.

Thanks

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Can you post pictures?
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My technological skills are limited but I'll try.
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I am almost positive they are from Ireland, but would need pics to confirm.
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"Eire" is Irish for "Ireland".

"Pingin" is Irish for "penny"; 1d is the standard abbreviation for "1 penny". You can see an example of a predecimal Irish penny here on WorldCoinGallery.

"Leath" (the TH is written as a dot over the T) is Irish for "half" - this second coin is a halfpenny, abbreviated 1/2d. WCG example.

These coins are from the "barnyard series" of predecimal Irish coins, so called because they all seem to have common farm animals on them (pigs, chickens, rabbits, dogs, horses, etc). The coins are indeed obsolete, now doubly so since Ireland switched to the euro. The dates on your two coins are actually the last years in which those particular coins were struck - the predecimal penny (240 to a pound) was replaced with a smaller, decimal penny in 1971 (100 to a pound), at the same time Britain did. As such, they are both fairly common, even in high grades.
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SAP -

You are correct. I looked up the pictures for these coins and that is sure enough is what they are.

Thanks for the information.

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