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1942-D DDO / DDR Washington Quarter Unpublished Error

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1942-D-DDO/Ddr-Washington-Quarter-Unpublished-Error

1942-D-DDO/Ddr-Washington-Quarter-Unpublished-Error

This circulated 1942 D qaurter is not listed in the price guides. They only reference the DDO or DDR but not with errors on both sides of one coin. It was listed in the quarter section of the Washington quarter as being one of the most valuable errors in the series but I have not been able to find a value on the internet. Any information regarding the scarcity and value is appreciated.
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Can you get a weight on the coin and take bigger pictures of it outside of the holder? I have my suspicions but do not want to further comment without a weight and better pics.
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It weighs 4.7 grams.
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Normal weight for a silver quarter is 6.3gr
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Yep, that weight confirms my suspicions that it is almost certainly a struck counterfeit. The doubled die on either side would be the strongest in the entire Washington quarter series. Doubled dies to that degree on both sides would be unprecedented on any coin in US Mint history. With that said, it is definitely one of the most interesting counterfeits I have ever seen.
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So what do you think? Should I sent it in to be graded for verification?
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why not a 1942 d struck over a 1942 d? that would produce the same result no?
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I didn't understand the last comment. This coin has reeded edges. Is not metallic (check it with a magnet) and was just wondering if it could be the real deal. Is it possible the planchet could wrong as well?
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I wondered that too, but it doesn't explain it being 25% underweight.
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If I found a coin like that no comments in the world would stop me to send it to be grade and verified by pcgs ! It can be fake but also can be real ! If fake you will loose couple dollars so what ?! If is real it would be a unique error and would bring a value above the roof !
Just send it , is my opinion ! It could be a planchet lighter then the other . I worked most of my life in the automobilistic metallurgic area and I saw the same material with different mass many times ! Until the quality control realize that is something wrong with their product could be 100s made until the time they fix it and most of the time they just sale the product together with the righ ones . We are talking about coins its made in large scale production and the errors are more common then we think !
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When I received this quarter it was in a white paper 2x2 folding type coin holder that had turned yellow from age. It had writing on it that read "Counterfeit or Doubling" with the word doubling underlined twice and a question mark at the end of the question. I wise shocked when I looked at it. I bought the coin simply based on the year and mintmark without taking a look at it. Then Wow!
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Interesting coin though. I weighed up a bunch of silver quarters mostly from the 30's and some 40's. Ran the gambit
from 5.7 to 6.1 grams ea. The lesser weight ones were worn pretty smooth. Strike looks authentic but just wondering why the low weight if indeed your scale is correct at 4.7 grams.
One whole gram below is odd if so. Must be a simple explanation for it.
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It is worth a gamble to send it in. It will cost a little bit of $ but if there is a slight chance it is real then take a chance. The next question is, which Grading Company would be the best to send it to?
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I'd say what you have is a contemporary counterfeit made to pass in circulation as a quarter.
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why not a 1942 d struck over a 1942 d? that would produce the same result no?

No, a double struck coin looks quite different. The first strike is flattened considerably on a double strike but the OPs coin has the distinct appearance of a doubled die. The coin below was double struck, it also happens to be a mint-made "manufactured" error that was posted here a few years ago.
1942-D-DDO/Ddr-Washington-Quarter-Unpublished-Error

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It can be fake but also can be real !

The sky is blue but it could also be purple...


What some people are failing to realize is that either of the purported doubled dies taken separately would be BY FAR THE STRONGEST OF THE ENTIRE Washington quarter SERIES, there is no equal to them. Either one of them separately would also be one of, if not the strongest doubled die known on ANY US COIN ever minted. The chances of these two doubled dies meeting on the same coin? Highly improbable. The chances of these two doubled dies meeting on the same coin AND having a non-silver planchet 25% underweight and not being discovered for almost 70 years? I would dare to call that impossible...

I also agree with Conder that it would more than likely be a contemporary counterfeit and not modern Chinese junk. It certainly would have been more convincing if the creator had toned it down a bit on the doubled dies, that immediately raises red flags for someone who know what to look for. I also think that a contemporary counterfeit like this one would have value to a collector, I collect Washington quarters and I would certainly pay good money* to obtain a counterfeit like this one, that is a nice piece of craftsmanship.

*Not an actual buy offer, just a hypothetical situation
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The sky is blue but it could also be purple


Not on Mercury where there is no sky, though I hear its orange on Titan.

Anyway I agree that even if it is a counterfit it still is worth something, at least so long as its a contemporary couterfiet.
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