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1873 Indian - Date ?

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 Posted 05/30/2011  11:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I cannot off hand remember, but is there something not the norm. going on with this date. The thicker vertical 1 and the downward slant of the 873 ?
Lousy scans as far as the coin goes but should suffice for the date. Thanks

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 Posted 05/30/2011  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are 70 known obverse dies for the "open 3" date, so the date position varies a lot.
I can't see an RPD on your coin. The thick numerals of the 1870s throw me off too.
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Thanks. I don't see anything myself in hand.
It was mostly the 1 that I was concerned about.
It's overall height, thickness and it's touching the 8 etc.
Most likely nothing but ?
In the process of grading a whitman 9003.
Well, missing a few :) 70,75,77 and 85. 08 and 09-s's
Why the 75 and 85 are missing is strange. Oh well, no biggie. Have the 3 eagles (no 56:) though. They probably threw it away because of the No hole deal on the whitmans :)


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There are a few 1872 IHCs with the 1 touching the 8 too. I can only guess why some dates are set more tight.
Have you checked the 1871 for the "shallow N"? That's a good variety too. Shame about that 1856 getting tossed.
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Thanks. No idea what to look for on the 71 "N" ?
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Here's an image I put together, comparing the "bold N" to the "shallow N" reverse.
The depth of the N in ONE (a.) is the main diagnostic, but the angular serifs (c.) on the E should be there too.

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I think it's the bold N
The N looks thicker and raised more than the Shallow.
The middle E serif looks more like the shallow though.
It's a below the waist/above the knee shallow I guess :)
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