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Has This Coin Been Whizzed?

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I am interested in this V-Nickel as I have been trying to find an 1898 in at least F-15 or above forever. However, this one just doesn't look right. It has a good strong LIBERTY and all but there are dark circles all around the stars on the obverse that gives the eye an indication of cleaning. What do you all think?

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 Posted 11/01/2006  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSOTL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with you. I'm still learning about identifying cleaned coins but those dark areas sure look bad. I dunno about whizzed but it looks cleaned to me.

Seller seems pretty safe though, at least in terms of returns and feedback. Seems like he'd know a bit about cleaned coins and mention it but then some folks are that way.
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it doesn't look whizzed but it definately does look cleaned. If it was cleaned it would have metal buildup around the devices (which I do not see on this coin)
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the coin has been cleaned. No way to tell how, from those photos - chemically for sure and probably physically, because of the heavy debris left in areas which a brush can't touch.
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Thanks guys. I am not against buying a cleaned one if it were of a rarer date because of budget but I don't want to get one of the more common dates that has been cleaned. Appreciate you all.

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 Posted 11/01/2006  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned and probably with the baking soda method.
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If it was whizzed I would expect to see raised areas around the smaller lettering.
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 Posted 11/01/2006  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can always go and ask the seller if it is cleaned. They may lie and say its not, but they may just tell you that it has been cleaned.
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For your information:
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whizzing
Term to describe the process of mechanically moving the metal of a lightly circulated coin to simulate luster. Usually accomplished by using a wire brush attachment on a high-speed drill.

All togather a different process than cleaning, which I believe you are referring to with this coin.
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I would believe that it is cleaned and rather harshly.
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But -- look at all the crud stuck in the small crevices. if I was going to clean it, I'd do a better job than this.
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Yes. The stuff is call ZAM. Its a silversmithing polishing compound. A coin that is cleaned with this stuff and a soft cotton cloth or wheel will leave behind this residue.


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But -- look at all the crud stuck in the small crevices. if I was going to clean it, I'd do a better job than this.

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