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 Posted 06/05/2011  03:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add aukro to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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 Posted 06/05/2011  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next time you're in a Chinese restaurant, show it to the help. I've been surprised how they can casually look at a coin and say "that's Wun Fat Gie, 1300s."
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 Posted 06/05/2011  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We've got plenty of folks that can ID Chinese coins right here, biggfredd. Besides, I don't think they have too many Chinese restaurants in Ukraine.

And biggfredd's guess is nowhere near old enough.

Your coin is from the Song Dynasty, from the emperor Hui Zong, cast during his Chong Ning period (1102-1107 AD). I assume it's fairly large (about 33mm across)? The inscription reads "Chong Ning zhong bao", and "zhong" means "heavy".

Despite being so old, it's not particularly rare or valuable. My Jen catalogue of Chinese coins lists it (J#276, FD# 1049) at $10 in VF.

Edit to correct: zhong means "heavy" not "large", but the same idea applies.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aukro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Sap.
You are right - this coin is about 33 mm across.
In another forum one man said that this coin is the modern Chinese counterfeiting coin.
What do you think: is this coin real or not.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From your pictures, it "looks" genuine to me, or at least not obviously fake as far as style and patination are concerned. There are four pages of these coins on zeno.ru to compare this coin with; no modern fakes of this type are listed.
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Look here: http://www.sportstune.com/chinese/c...g.html#chung this should be your Chinese coin from the Norther Sung 906-1127 a.d. Dynasty
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Wow Sap, I didn't realize there were so many different varieties of this coin with the same markings. The one I listed probably isn't the correct one now that I look into it further. Think I jumped the gun a little bit...LOL
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