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 Posted 06/05/2011  02:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shibster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Guys,

I assume its not an Australian release as I'm struggling to find it in my books....Anyone here able to point me?



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 Posted 06/05/2011  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great Britain, KM #810. 124M mintage. Should have George VI on the obverse.

And, to CCF!!
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 Posted 06/05/2011  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 1920, I assume you mean "George V".

Up until 1920 in Australia, British coins circulated side-by-side with Australian coins.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap. I have been collecting british bronze up to 1910. I will extend that a little further.

When did they start repatriating British silver back home? I suspect that it may be the same year, because that was when British silver was debased to 50% purity.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, Sap, Geo V. The I snuck in there.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When did they start repatriating British silver back home? I suspect that it may be the same year, because that was when British silver was debased to 50% purity.

They began as soon as Australian currency was introduced, but they proceeded slowly; part of the delay in getting Australia's coinage started was a disagreement between Australia and Britain over who should pay for this repatriation. Britain was hoping that some other colony in our area (like New Zealand) would take them, but there weren't any takers. In the end, Britain agreed to take back its coins, but only in small batches at a time. This Adelaide Advertiser article from 1909 estimated that there was about £2,000,000 worth of British silver in Australia at the time and that the agreement between Britain and Australia stipulated that they be repatriated at no more than £100,000 per year - a process that would have taken 20 years.

This Townsville newspaper article from 1925, though slightly garbled by a low-grade scan, indicates that the repatriation stopped because of WWI but had resumed with gusto "during the last two years" (i.e. from 1922/3), once the cheap-alloy British coins started arriving on our shores. If British coins had continued to be imported and accepted at par, Gresham's Law would have driven the native Australian coins out of circulation. The measures seem to have worked; I believe all the British coins were effectively gone from circulation by 1928.

As for the bronze coins like the one in the OP, I don't think they were ever formally repatriated; it simply wasn't worth anyone's while shipping that amount of base metal around the world. They would have simply been withdrawn and sent to the Mints for melting down if they were spotted as they passed through the banking system.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap: Thanks. I stand to be a little better educated now.

For sake of convenience, 100 years 1825 to 1925 seems to be a nice round figure for the substantial circulation of British silver in Australia.

As I understand it, 1825 was the date when the first substantial shipment of British Silver arrived in Australia to finally and fully establish a sterling based currency in the country.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was an interesting read!
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