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This policy has done squat in curbing people from profiting off of their S&H rather than the auction itself. I am so ticked off. I am so fed up with monopolistic money sucking companies! ebay, Wal-mart, USPS, et al. Tired of the whole bunch of them!

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 Posted 11/02/2006  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, just had to vent due to getting charged $10.85 for shipping on 2 items that totaled $3.90. I am refusing to pay him "required insurance". I feel better now.

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I've reported a fair number of auctions with excessive shipping using the "Report this auction" function at the bottom of each auction. I was pleasantly surprised when a couple were actually pulled.

Did the seller state the S&H charges up front or did s/he keep the charges hidden until after the auction was over?

On a few non-coin items I've purchased recently, the shipping cost more than the item: for a $10 postal scale, I paid $13+ for shipping via USPS, but the item price was good and he shipped it Priority Mail and insured, so I wasn't getting completely ripped off. His deal was the best of the lot (there's a LOT of postal scales dealers on ebay). Some were charging $30+ shipping for the same scale. Had to have it, however.
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This is straight off of ebay's website. I sent it to him and he just doesn't get it. He still says I have to pay for the insurance because I bought more than one item from him. Say what?

This is from ebay's excessive shipping charges policy:

*Insurance: *Sellers offering insurance may only charge the actual fee
for insurance. No additional amount may be added, such as
"self-insurance". Sellers who do not use a licensed 3rd party insurance
company may not require buyers to purchase insurance. This is a
violation of state law.

The item in question are little rubber bumpers for mine and the wife's cell phones. They probably don't weigh an ounce together. I'll never learn.

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Sounds like he's a candidate for "Report this auction". There's categories for reporting after an auction is closed and by the auction winner, but one has to keep scrolling through the choices or selecting different reporting reasons until one comes close. At least, I think an auction can be reported after it has closed; I hope this hasn't changed.

Good luck, IR!

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I got caught like that in one and knew up front what the cost was. BUT, what realled made me mad was when he charged the $7+ for Pri Mail and insurance then sent it in a #10 envelope with Del. Conf. for about $1.93!!

I neutraled him, said the coin was great but ship was a rip. He gave me a Negative. person!!

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Seth, welcome to the forum! Plenty of experience and expertise here in the family and a willingness to share.

I can empathize with your position with regard to excessive shipping charges and retaliatory feedback. Until ebay changes its feedback system and makes it easier for buyers (or sellers for that matter) to give honest feedback on the other party without fear of retribution, it will be used largely to the advantage of ethically-challenged sellers. I just had an instance of a buyer who just held up payment, never answered any of my emails (all sent very tactfully asking if there was anything I could do at my end if s/he was having problems), and finally paid by PayPal just as I was on the verge of reporting her as a non-paying bidder. I gave her a positive feedback which didn't say anything, so a reviewer would have to read between the lines. I am too concerned about another party giving me a neg in response to anything except a positive thus ruining my perfect feedback score. I have sent the suggestion to Bill Cobb, ebay North America Prez a couple times that feedback be withheld from viewing until both parties have submitted it therefore reducing the possibility of retaliation. No answer from ebay.

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*Insurance: *Sellers offering insurance may only charge the actual fee for insurance. No additional amount may be added, such as "self-insurance". Sellers who do not use a licensed 3rd party insurance company may not require buyers to purchase insurance. This is a violation of state law.

Once again ebay shows its ignorance. Self-insurance is perfectly legal in most states. You may insure your own packages without a license, you may not insure someone elses' packages without a license.
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BUT, what realled made me mad was when he charged the $7+ for Pri Mail and insurance then sent it in a #10 envelope with Del. Conf.


You're really lucky that it didn't come postage due for $2.57. If someone at the PO had realized that a first class DC parcel was not 3/4 of an inch thick, that's what would have happened.

They would've bumped it to $4.50. One pound Priority with non-electronic DC. (If it was electronic DC it would've been $2.12 postage due)



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Originally posted by bobby131313

quote:
BUT, what realled made me mad was when he charged the $7+ for Pri Mail and insurance then sent it in a #10 envelope with Del. Conf.


You're really lucky that it didn't come postage due for $2.57. If someone at the PO had realized that a first class DC parcel was not 3/4 of an inch thick, that's what would have happened.

They would've bumped it to $4.50. One pound Priority with non-electronic DC. (If it was electronic DC it would've been $2.12 postage due)



Dad, it sounds like you work for the postal service!
Funny, because I am also a "contractor" of sorts for them, call 1-800-ask-usps some time and enjoy..

I had a strange thing happen to me about a year ago - I was sending a coin to a buyer, and wanted to insure it. The clerk, in her "self-important, I run the world here" tone asked me what I was insuring, and if it was valuable (well of course it is, that's why I want INSURANCE!!) When I told her it was a coin, she said "you can't ship money through the mail, sorry." I didnt want to cause a scene (or get arrested) so I had to take it to another post office where they didn't ask any questions whatsoever. Strange.
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I too am more careful to watch shipping charges BEFORE I bid. I bought a coin from randall_coins and was charged $6.95. The coin arrved 10 days later (all others came within 5 days) and the actual postage was $1.93. The coin came in an airtite slab, cost $1.75, which was not indicated in the coin description and which I did not wanmt. Who "slabs" a common SL half in VG? I will not buy from that seller again.
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quote:
Originally posted by Toblerone2
I had a strange thing happen to me about a year ago - I was sending a coin to a buyer, and wanted to insure it. The clerk, in her "self-important, I run the world here" tone asked me what I was insuring, and if it was valuable (well of course it is, that's why I want INSURANCE!!) When I told her it was a coin, she said "you can't ship money through the mail, sorry." I didnt want to cause a scene (or get arrested) so I had to take it to another post office where they didn't ask any questions whatsoever. Strange.



After going through several self-taught and self-righteous postal clerks and postmasters at my local PO, I downloaded a PDF of the USPS Domestic Mailing Manual (DMM) and became my own expert. Sections 601.8 and 601.11 of the DMM list non-mailable materials; coins ain't among them. The intent is to prohibit materials which may be a danger to persons or to the mails.

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quote:
Originally posted by bobby131313


You're really lucky that it didn't come postage due for $2.57. If someone at the PO had realized that a first class DC parcel was not 3/4 of an inch thick, that's what would have happened.

They would've bumped it to $4.50. One pound Priority with non-electronic DC. (If it was electronic DC it would've been $2.12 postage due)




Actually, it's only 1/4" I just had that round with the Post Office. I just added one skinney piece of bubble pack and it wouldn't fit through her test slot!
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