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Lot Pre 1900 Zar South Africa Coins For Grade And Valuation

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 Posted 06/12/2011  06:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Part of rather big lot,just curious about them.Thanks in advance.
2 1/2 shillings 1896

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2 shillings 1895


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shilling 1894



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6 pence 1867


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6 pence 1895


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3 pence 1896 (blurry pics)


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South Africa
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 Posted 06/12/2011  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Valdiman, what do you need to know about them, Mintages, History, Silver contents etc etc?
2 1/2 Shillings
Specifications ; Silver, Diameter approx. 32 mm, Weight 14,14,138 grammes. Tolerance o,o5891 grammes.

These were minted for each of the standard years ( 1892 - 1897 ).

Some of these coins were polished, silvered or mounted.

Again the rarest and second rarest coins in uncirculated condition are the 1893 and 1895 coins, followed by the 1894, and then only the 1892.

The 1896 and 1897 halfcrowns are reasonably easily obtainable in uncirculated condition.

TWO SHILLINGS ( 2/- )
Specifications : Silver, Diameter approx. 29 mm, Weight 11,31grammes. Tolerance 0,04712 grammes.

These were minted for each of the standard years ( 1892 - 1897 ).

The rarest coin is the 1893 florin in uncirculated condition, and the writer's valuation is more than double that of the next most valuable coin.

The 1895 florin in uncirculated condition is the next rarest coin.

SHILLING ( 1/- )
Specifications : Silver, Diameter approx. 24 mm, Weight 5,655 grammes. Tolerance 0,02306 grammes.

These were minted for each of the standard years only ( 1892 - 1897 ).

The currency wording "Shilling" is in English only. This is also the situation with the 2/-, 2/6 and 5/- coins.

The scarcest shilling and almost impossible to come by in uncirculated condition, is the 1893 coin. The writer's valuation of this coin is double the value of the next rare shilling in uncirculated condition. It is quite a thrill to the ZAR collector to be able to acquire an 1893 shilling in good condition.

The other date which is extremely difficult in uncirculated condition is the 1896 1/-, and this also reflects in the catalogue value.
SIXPENCE ( 6D )
Specifications : Silver, Diameter approx.19 mm, Weight 2,8276 grammes. Tolerance 0,02 grammes.

These were minted for each of the six "Standard" years only, viz. 1892 - 1897.

The rarest date is the 1895 6d and it is virtually impossible to find this coin in uncirculated condition.

The 1893 is the next rarest. Thereafter the 1892, 1894 and 1896 are about the same availability, and the 1897 is the commonest of these coins.

TICKEY ( 3d )
Specifications : Silver, Diameter approx. 16 mm, Weight 1,4138 grammes. Tolerance 0,003grammes.

Note that all ZAR silver was 92,5% silver and 7,5% alloy, mostly copper. The permissible silver deviation was 3 parts per 1000 for all silver coins.

These coins were minted for each of the "Standard" years, viz. 1892 - 1897.

The 1892 tickey is reasonably scarce in uncirculated condition, whilst the 1893 tickey is fairly common in comparison. This is the exception to the 1893 rule, because all other 1893 coins are scarce, and in most cases, scarcer than any of the other dates.

The 1894 tickey, by contra-distinction, is the scarcest.

The 1895 tickey has about the same availability as the 1893 coin, and by far the commonest are the 1896 and 1897 coins.
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 Posted 06/12/2011  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, Sorry on the PM I only saw the first part of the Topic.
These look harshly cleaned, and some has nice scratches, would personally grade them at a Good to Fine. but for grading you have to ask the experts on the forum. I am totally not reliable for a grade.
Based on the 2009 Herns Handbook a grade from F to EF below would be the below general prices.
1896 2 HALF SHILLINGS MINTAGE 284760 - F=$30 / VF=$70 / EF=$240
1895 2 SHILL MINTAGE 149610 - F= $70 / VF=$950 / EF=$2371
1894 1 SHILL MINTAGE 366000 - F=$128 / VF=$325 / EF=$813
1897 6 PENCE MINTAGE 220000 - F=$20 / VF=$54 / EF=$135
1895 6 PENCE MINTAGE 178640 - F=$162 / VF=$406 / EF=$1,355
1896 3 PENCE MINTAGE 166480 - F=$20 /VF=$47 / EF=$ 118

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 Posted 06/12/2011  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info-hat what I've been looking forI also have plenty of modern issues-mostly UNC.Thanks a lot for answer.
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 Posted 06/12/2011  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, try this site for more in dept info
http://www.zarcoins.co.za
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 Posted 06/12/2011  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a jewelers copy (I really mean forgery) of a Percy Marks gold 'Tickey', or ZAR threepenny piece. It is in 22ct gold, about 30% above the weight of the genuine gold coin. It is really just worth bullion value. This particular piece is described and photographed in an IBSCC (International Bureau for the Supression of Counterfeit Coins) bulletin.

A copy of the bulletin and the fake are stored together in my collection. The coin itself is a very high quality pressure cast copy, with no evidence of mint bloom. It was the lack of mint bloom that aroused the suspicion of the previous owner who sold it to me.
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06/12/2011 09:43 am
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 Posted 06/12/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is some info from Zarboys link:
http://www.zarcoins.co.za/index.php...ns&Itemid=15
Great story though
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South Africa
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 Posted 06/13/2011  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Sel691, that is one of the nice ZAR coins copies, Do you have pictures?
Does it have fullstops between the letters in ZAR?
That hole in my collection is empty
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 Posted 06/13/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is best TPG for ZAR coins?Im thinking about 6 pence 1895.By the way Sel691-can you post some pics?
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 Posted 06/14/2011  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Valdiman, if you want to get graded, I would go with PCGS or NGC only, but there is a lot of members here that will disagree, there is a lot of members that wouldn't even get it graded, it all depends in the end why you want it graded.
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