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I Hate Proof Coins, Do You?

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 Posted 06/14/2011  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prethen, I really enjoyed seeing your Half Dime, stellar colors and the same date as my half!
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 Posted 06/14/2011  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
muddler and Prethen, those are some beautiful early proofs!
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 Posted 06/14/2011  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add General Tso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like them but rarely get any. I just don't trust myself storing them properly for years and years. Just worried they will get spots etc... over time.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think my mind has been made up that I only care for classic early proofs. moderns just don't do anything for me, they look too perfect. at least classic ones get a certain look to them, they have beautiful designs and they get some great toning.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bilnic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some thoughts from England on this subject.

Bearing in mind that Proofs are supposed to be a perfect example of the art of minting, I find them quite acceptable. However, I have some reservations about them.

Proofs are usually made from specially produced dies, and therefore there are subtle differences between them and equivalent circulation issues. In this case, my choice is for the real (circulation) coin, if possible before it has had much use if it is a modern coin. British Proofs now have a frosted relief, which in itself makes them unlike circulation issues.

Our Royal Mint now has an additional grade that they issue for collectors, called "Brilliant Uncirculated". This is what it says, a coin which is highly polished and only handled/packaged under controlled conditions to prevent damage. Being so bright, they do not appear natural.

Perhaps the difference today is the marketing policy - sell - sell - sell. Whoever the customer might be, just get the money. Present day prices are exorbitant compared with a few years ago. Proofs used to be produced for the true numismatist; nowadays they are aimed at an unsuspecting public. As for NCLT in general, I'm not very amused as to me, quoted from the Oxford Online Dictionary, a coin is "a flat disc or piece of metal with an official stamp, used as money" - note the used as money!

Now to "year sets". Unfortunately, as they are produced at the beginning of the year (and now before Christmas), they are usually incomplete. Therefore, to obtain a full set of ALL coins for a year, some have to be in individual packs.

I think that, from the above, you will see that I consider sets and other specially marketed issues poor value and their distribution poorly organised.

What do we, true collectors, really want? My choice would be for, at the end of each year, a full set of all coins that entered circulation, to Uncirculated standard.

Bill.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I own proof sets from 1964 to present because I love them.
To me it's a perfect example of the coins made that year, all wraped up and ready to go.
I don't feel bad about not saving clad coinage (including State Quarters), Lincoln memorials, late model Jeffersons or modern dollars, because I know I have my proofs. The only modern coinage I collect outside of proofs sets are Kennedy's.
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