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Can Your Type Set Intersect Your Date Set(S)?

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Let's say I'm starting a type set collection and already have a nice type example for it. BUT, it's part of a date set already.

If you were me, would you leave it out of the type set (and just reference your date set for it), pull it out of the date set (and downgrade that date if necessary), or simply shell out the cash for another coin for the type set?

Edit: I lean toward the first option -- i.e. using the same coin for both sets -- but is that "allowed"?
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I'd use the same coin for both sets, but I'd also buy another coin. It would depend on my mood at the time of doing it(and the price of the coin). I would buy another coin if the coin was cheap, but not if it cost me a lot.

I've done it a few times, but I've mostly bought another coin. It's your call.
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Quote:
I've mostly bought another coin.





I hate empty holes in my albums....
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It's not a set without the coin, I always buy a coin for each set.
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As a question in general, I'd say get another coin.

But, if your type set is a set of key dates (like a 1914-D Lincoln) or varieties (I don't know who would do something like that ), then I would be happy with cross-referencing it.

Which coin are we talking about?
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I don't have high grade coins for most of my date sets but I do want higher grade coins for my type set so I took the best of my date coins to put in the type set and replaced it with lower grade coins. I will never have the funds for a high grade date set but I can squeeze out enough cash for a single high grade coin of each type.
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Buy the coin.
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Your collection, your rules.

But I am with the majority here. There are several coins in my 7070 type set that are duplicates of a coin in the corresponding date set. I try to keep the grades the same so that there is no jealousy between them.
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I have a coin for each set.

I have three "intersecting" sets at the moment, a 19th Century type set, a 20th Century type set and a Morgan dollar date set where each of the two type sets require a Morgan dollar, Barber half, Barber quarter, Barber dime, Liberty nickel and Indian cent.

The 19th Century type set has coins dated 1899 or earlier and the 20th Century type set has coins dated 1901 or later. I will eventually have two 1883 CC dollars in the Morgan date set one to fill the 1883 hole and one for the Carson City mint hole in the last page. I will also have two other CC's of the same date, one in the date set and one in the type set, I haven't decided which date yet though it won't be another 1883.

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i too buy a coin for each set. even if two of my sets require the same coin. I just dish out the money for the duplicate I need.
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if you have a date set why not use the whole set in the type set since that date seems to some significant meaning to you
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Bryan: I'm sorry -- by "date set" I meant a standard set of all different dates/mintmarks for a series. For instance, Lincoln Memorials 1959-2008, PDS, with proofs. What do you call this?
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Slightly OCD here... No empty holes... I always buy another one. Looks like I'm not the only one. What a relief!
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To solve your dilemma, two important and related questions must be answered.

1. Do you collect "coins", or do you collect "sets of coins"?

2. How do you store your collection?

If you answer to question 1 is "coins", then no, you don't need to buy separate coins for each set. If the answer is "sets", then yes, to be complete and separable sets, you will need duplicate coins.

The storage question is related, because method of storage will probably reflect on which of those two kinds of coin collector you really are. If you're using Dansco / Whitman / some other brand albums or folders, the kind with little holes for each coin you need to "complete a set", then you're most likely a "sets" collector and it's probably going to drive you crazy looking at a set with "missing" coins that aren't really missing - so you'll need two coins, one for each set.

If, however, you're putting the coins in 2x2s or in "blank" albums, or some other easily rearrange-able setup, then you're probably a "coin" collector; you can rearrange the coins however you wish. Such a collector will only need one coin.

Speaking for myself, I'm definitely a "coin" guy rather than a "sets" guy. I have no duplicates in my collection at all if I can help it.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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wow I just learned I am a coin collector I use blank pages and flips and I have a 70D JFK 1/2 in my 20th century type set and a denver UNC token in its spot in my date set
and my type set I keep in airtights in a box I really need to work on a disply for them
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Sap: That's a very thoughtful and accurate answer. I suppose questions (1) and (2) are really in fact what I was struggling with.

Probably the main point I can state about my collection is that I don't use albums. So there's no such thing as a "hole" for me.

On the other hand, it might be nice to "display" a type set all in one place. Then all the various designs can be compared, seen at a glance. Also, generally, type sets can be very high grade for the same budget as a low-grade set. There's no point IMO in displaying a low-grade date/mm/variety set, since all the coins look the same (from a distance).

So -- with everyone's help -- I believe I've reached a solution: It sounds like I should withdraw nice high-grade examples from my sets into my type set. Then, I can include a little slip of paper in my set which tells me that coin got "promoted" to the type set!

(And obviously, for cheap coins like clad Washington quarters, I can afford 2 of one date.)

PS: Strangely, I had envisioned it the other way around, where my type-set was incomplete and had pointers to my various sets. I don't know why I thought of it this way. Maybe it's because I was scared to break up a nice set.
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