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Proper Grading, Is This Really This Grade?

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Doing my daily check of ebay items and ran across this 1937 nickel - 170653829162. Graded MS65. I don't see it, in fact to me it looks like barely a VF. Maybe it's my glasses, I am do for a check up. What are your thoughts?
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looks like an MS-65 coin to me, definitely an MS coin, there's no wear on it.
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The scan is of very poor quality.I trust Brian a bit more to be out by this much.
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Going by the scan, not even close to MS65
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in my opinion this scan is so poor it's impossible to grade. It looks quite washed out, so either it's an ugly coin or a terrible scan. My guess would be that the coin is better looking in hand than it is in the picture.
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scans make it all but impossible to accurately asses a coin especially through plastic because it reflects a lot of the light from the scan lens/lamp combo.
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Read the other threads on weak strikes. That is a perfect example of a gem uncirculated coin, but weakly struck. In fact, the ICCS holder should state that it is a weak strike, but ICCS was never known for its comment consistency.

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Yes, that's definitely an MS-65, the 1937 and 1938 are notorious for their soft strikes that give the Gem grades that circulated look. I have the exact coin in my collection and both my '37 and '38 have this look. Both are I.C.C.S. graded and the '38 is an MS-64. The fields are what gives them away when you have the coin in hand. They are virtually perfect and untouched!

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When I am looking at nickels from this era - 1937 to 1952, one of the first things I look at is the fields and then my eye goes right to the tail of the beaver. I look for the crisscross pattern like a file on the tail. If that's there then I know it's an uncirculated coin. This coin from what I can see does not have that look to the tail. It seems very flat. Is the file pattern on the tail, a feature of a strongly struck coin?
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I don't really care who graded it, but if it is MS65 then I must eat my hat.
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