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Rest in Peace
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Pillar of the Community
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Seems like a legitimate story; what's wrong with the reporting? Historical accuracy?
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Rest in Peace
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Little things like using face as their "historical value", which is probably in six digits.
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Valued Member
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Well you mean there current value being six digits. The historical value seems to be right.
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Quote: Seems like a legitimate story; what's wrong with the reporting? Historical accuracy? More the lowest-common-denominator approach; there was not one iota of information in the press release which could help any numismatist, anywhere, help get those coins back. Bad reporting and useless pix sounds about right to me. Good for the AP wire and nothing else. Recovering stolen coins is about publicity. Wide, fast publicity. Unless it was a hit commissioned by a collector who will now keep the coins forever, the perps are going to need to offload that stuff fast. They obviously knew what they were getting. Note the blurb in the release referring to the coins as the "most valuable part of the exhibit." In fact, we're discussing another example of one of those coins here. Their odds of realizing any decent return lies with fencing them through an unknowing dealer. That means dates, denominations and grades need to get into the public infostream now.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Dave, excellent explanation, makes all the sense in the world. I didn't think it thru...
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Rest in Peace
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Keep in mind, the only reason anyone here heard about it is because I accidentally ran across an article several days old.
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....which means it's already too late. The coins were obviously raw; they've been fenced with an unsuspecting dealer in Chicago or Tampa or somewhere, for decent but not spectacular money. The thief(thieves?) probably realized $10k on a zero investment, the dealer will make great money on an "unsuspecting mark," and everybody's happy.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Actual value was closer to $10,000, the ANA doesn't put the really good stuff in their small traveling exhibits. Six coins were stolen- 1849 Seated Liberty $1 VF, 1861 $2 1/2 VF, 1857 $3 AU, 1862 $5 AU, 1847 $10 VF, and 1861 $20 EF. The exhibit had been set up for less than 48 hours over a weekend and it was not scheduled to officially open until Monday. The display was in an area with no security camera and no stationed personnel. The Museum of Transportation utilizes alot of volunteers and I suspect this was a crime of opportunity. Every single coin shop in the St Louis area has the list of dates and conditions so they will be tough to fence locally.
Edited by biokemist6 06/18/2011 11:26 pm
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Rest in Peace
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ok, 9442 numismedia. still a felony.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Good ending, the coins were apparently anonymously returned today but the St Louis County Police are not commenting and no one has been arrested. I am still going with my first hunch of an inside job by an employee/volunteer but fortunately one with a guilty conscience 
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Pillar of the Community
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The thief probably realized he/she was not going to be able to sell the coins without getting caught and just returned them. Ed ANA LM-3175
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well that's good news, I agree that is was probably someone on the inside. I just can't believe that something as priceless as these coins were so easily stolen. I mean the bass collection in the ANA sits inside a very secure vault with armed security with literally one camera on each coin. They make this ANA theft seem like they were wide out in the open.
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Bedrock of the Community
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if the information hadn't gotten out as fast as it did it may have had a whole different out come. That is where these forums and websites can really spread the word fast and make it almost impossible or at least difficult for a thief to sell their stolen goods
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