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Just Obtained- 1928 P MS-63 Peace Dollar

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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nevid77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my world, being the oddball is the norm for me. I understand what you mean fredd, it is like being at the start of a trend, and selling at the high-point of that trend, knowing when the trend will trend kind of thing.

I was almost on the brink of purchasing Perfect70s from APMEX, but something in my gut stopped me. It seemed I would rather have double the physical silver, than a coin that is perfect, yet accessible to everybody at the moment, at a not too hefty price, in my opinion.

I am continuing research on the rare-coins in the market, and what people seek. I will always pay close attention to the releases from the US-mint, as those are my hearts desire.

As far as getting a decent coin, is there a grade you would suggestion I seek over one or the other?

It seems to me I, and personally, I don't think I want to obtain anything without at least an MS-63 status, and hopefully with a CAC seal of visual approval.

I also posted a question in a different forum, with no replies yet, do you think I should have my ATB-5ozUNC coins graded? If I am planning on keeping them for the entire collection term, and then possibly ten years after that, before I consider selling- although I see other people's woes on this forum about submitting and dealing with TPGs and it makes me hesitant.

Thanks again BiggFredd!

Hope everybody is having a great weekend!

-D
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My own gut feeling says the prices above ms65 are not sustainable. The sheldon scale was originally intended for pricing, not grading. A 66 should sell for 10% more than a 60, a 30 for double a 15.

I would have a ATB graded unless I was sure I'd get a high grade, and was interested in selling immediately. Here's that contrary thinking stuff again. It's gonna take ten years to complete the set. TPG may be gone by them, and you'll have spent a bunch on fees for nothing. It may still be popular, in which case you've had the use of the money for ten years. The dollar may be even more worthless, saving you money by grading them later.

The series may bring silver melt, regardless of grade, in which case you will have saved thousands in grading fees. Lots of different angles, think ahead of the crowd.
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It seems to me I, and personally, I don't think I want to obtain anything without at least an MS-63 status, and hopefully with a CAC seal of visual approval.


It's tough to add something as wise as Fredd has been writing....

I will reiterate my previous statement regarding rarity/demand. It's a more risk-averse strategy than others; the return is therefore less rewarding, but it's much more certain. The right coins don't have to me MS63, nor do they have to be CAC certified (will we remember who CAC is in ten years?). The people who will buy these coins will know what they're looking at, regardless of what the slab says. There are plenty of issues whose conditional rarity is such that even a VG-F example represents a solid long-term investment.

The skills you'll need to choose these coins are the same skills you'll need to decide whether "perfect 70's" are worth purchasing. Just because a TPG calls it a 70 doesn't mean it's a 70, and furthermore, "70" isn't all that difficult for the Mint to achieve these days.

I don't have any faith in the continued market or price for anything capable of a 70 grade, anyways.
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Dave, I always appreciate your advice as it is very sound, and noteworthy. Fredd, yours as well. I have much respect for you two members of this forum, as your words are wise, and your advice is direct and explained.

I am going to focus a lot of my time on learning the grading system, how things were graded, how things are supposed to be graded, what those grades consist of.

I think when it comes down to it, the only thing that is really certain is the condition of the coin, regardless of what slab, TPG, seal, whatever cool holographic logo they wanna put on that piece of plastic. If a coin is graded ms-65, but clearly presents ms-63 and below qualities, obviously one doesn't want to pay a premium for that coin; rather he should be seeking a higher luster, eye-appeal, and quality coin. It is all making a little more sense now. Finding my niche is, clearly, the hardest part of this endeavor, and ever-changing as I am realizing already.

You guys are great, and I appreciate the time you take to respond to such newbie questions and thoughts.

Keep those good words comin!

-Dev
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