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Just Obtained- 1928 P MS-63 Peace Dollar

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Hey all. I just got my coin in the mail today! My very first coin! I am very excited to get into numismatic collecting, but I have a couple issues...


The place I bought this coin from told me to not get caught up in collecting Peace dollars, as I was interested in building a set. I have a strange drive to set-build, and maybe this is indeed a mistake.

This is where everybody comes in. I am completely new and it's very difficult to trust and believe people these days, especially those in sales.

Did I make a good purchase? I have read a lot and am not completely incompetent when it comes to coins, but as I said I am new to coins.

Hope to hear some interesting things...

Thanks y'all!

-Devin
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The place I bought this coin from told me to not get caught up in collecting Peace dollars, as I was interested in building a set. I have a strange drive to set-build, and maybe this is indeed a mistake.


Wonder why they would tell you that? I am currently building a set of Peace dollars and I am sure there are more on this forum that are doing the same thing.

Do your own thing and build the set if you want to. As long as you are enjoying yourself, thats all that matters.

Love to see a pic of your 28 Peace dollar.
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the Peace dollars are a very short set and can be collected pretty easily because there are no dates that are all that hard to find. My question is when you say you got a MS-63 in a slab, you didn't mention what TPG slabbed the coin. I almost had a full date/mm set of Morgans before I sold off a large portion of them when I was going from MS-64 Morgans to MS-66 and above Morgans, so the Peace dollars should be a piece of cake
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Forgive our manners ... to the forum.

Are you able to show a photo of that Peace dollar? We enjoy pictures and can offer the best help with a photo.


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I am currently building a set of Peace dollars and I am sure there are more on this forum that are doing the same thing.


Count me as one of them ... slowly building an MS set and truly enjoying the challenge.

David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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PGCS and CAC - TO answer Bryans question.

I will dig out the photo gear tomorrow. :) VERY EXCITED!

Thanks for your feedback and welcome, everyone.

-Devin
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The place I bought this coin from told me to not get caught up in collecting Peace dollars, as I was interested in building a set


Here's why

If you are goal-oriented, you are harder to sell to. The dealer has to meet your needs, not his.

If you're willing to take "advice" you end up with 35 ms63 28 peace, an xf overdate bust half, and some rolls of Mercury dimes. That's not a coin collection, that's a pile of coins.
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I will stick to my hearts desire, regardless of goals, or what I am told via salespeople. I think doing that, you can never go wrong with a coin.

I have gathered stuff for images today! I will be taking pictures and should have some good pics up soon.

So much to learn...
Such a discouraging process...

Thanks for your Two Cents Fredd.
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You have every motivation to complete the Peace set now, having already acquired one of the two "stoppers" in the 1928-P. Aside the 1921, the rest will be inexpensive-enough in similar grade that you can afford to be picky about getting the "right" coin for your tastes.

The 1921 will be tougher, of course, but there are plenty on the market. Be picky here, too. Strike quality varies widely, as does demand for individual coins. The 1921 Peace is an "early adopter" coin, sometimes subject to the bidding whim of people who decide to "go coin collecting" on a lark.

Peace dollars are, generally, not the most visually-stunning of designs. I really can't call myself a fan. However, when you can find them with clean fields and (relatively rare) nice luster and strike, you have something pretty special.

For the record, a price fair to both buyer and seller for a slabbed MS63 1928-P is in the $700-750 range.
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Dave, I can safely say I have been taken for a ride for several hundred dollars beyond what you valued the coin at...I am sure by the time it's all said and done I will become discouraged and simply stop my collecting.

I took pictures and am working on getting them posted.

Thanks everyone
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Here is front of my Peace dollar.


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Back side.

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I am sure by the time it's all said and done I will become discouraged and simply stop my collecting.


I wouldn't be so discouraged, yet.

I derive my pricing opinions for coins of this caliber primarily from real-world Heritage Auctions results if a sufficient number exist; in this case, they did. If not, I branch out into other selling venues and attempt to take an average. Outliers exist on both ends.

Even if you overpaid today, you overpaid for a coin which may be counted on to remain at the top curve of price appreciation in the long term. It's a known rarity, subject to great demand, with easy liquidity due to that demand and graded by the company whose slabs command the highest price in the marketplace.

So, in that sense, it's far easier for me to be the bearer of bad tidings for you than for those who we've had to tell they just wasted thousands of dollars. Your timeframe may have just extended itself into the realm of "many years," but you can reasonably expect your investment to recoup in the future.

Others are far less lucky. Yours is a valuable lesson from a recoverable mistake.
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Thanks Dave. I searched online and even e-bay auctions had the coin priced at slightly above what I paid for it.

Everything I do is a long-term investment. I have no intention of quick returns, or get rich fast schemes. I will, however, be more cautious and have already disregarded the company I made my first purchase from. I have continued to seek out commemorative sets, such as the ATB collection I am working on, as well as what I find to be pretty, and valuable.

It is a discouraging business...this Coin World can eat a person alive if they are in the wrong position...

I hope through this website, I will now be able to make more informed, more directly investment related decisions, and prevent myself and others from making costly mistakes.

Thanks again Dave. What do you think of the image?
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What do you think of the image?


It's....a start.

Indications are your camera can be made to work nicely with coins. We have a forum for this, and some existing tutorials on basic coin photography setup. If you'd like, throw these images into a new thread in that forum, mention what particular camera you're using, and we'll be happy to work on maximizing your results.


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as well as what I find to be pretty, and valuable.


That's a basic truth.


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this Coin World can eat a person alive if they are in the wrong position...


That's another basic truth, and you're showing a steep learning curve. You're gonna be fine.
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So very discouraging...


Thanks Dave
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devin -

numismedia shows a 63 (not a high 63, which is cac) at $930. If it really bothers you, see if you can return it, but that's another price point.

dave -

Is there a buyer premium on heritage stuff?
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