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1960-D Franklin 'Error?'

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I say 'error' because I have no idea what this type if thing I am about to bring up is called. Or even if it is any kind of error.

I am going through my coins/silver and parting things out. What I have now, which I didn't have before is a way to get up close and personal with my coins. A magnifying glass did me no good at all.

I got one of those fairly inexpensive 'Micro Capture' USB cameras and while they are good at getting close and focus quite well they only take a 640X480 picture.

The 1960 Franklin in question was spotted just this morning. Playing around with it I found these errors. They look like they were stamped twice. But only in the lower area of the coin on the words, 'Half Dollar."

Is this 'anything?' And what would this type of thing be called?

Thanks,

Dale

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 Posted 07/10/2011  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Machine Doubling damage to me. You can see where the devices are looking pushed toward the rim. Some devices have the crimped look in that location.
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I don't think it's an error, just Machine Doubling. If it was a doubled die the area would be round like the regular letter. When it's flat and shelf like you know it's just the die moving during the strike that has caused this kind of damage.
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 Posted 07/11/2011  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off:
To CCF

Doubled dies/hubs are one of the more difficult
areas of coin variety study to the beginner or for that matter
most of us :) You will see terms like Machine Doubling (MD)
for short as the world loves acronymns :) DDO )doubled die obverse, DDR same as above but on the "Reverse" plus regular die as well as hub doubling. Once you get familiar with using this site and getting accustomed you can do a search and find much info about them. There are many lists available online that show pics. of the various DDO's and DDR's etc. Look at them and compare different coins that you find to those pics and after a while you will see the differences and attributes of a genuine DDO / DDR versus doubling that was caused by lets say a mechanical problem such as a loose die or the machinery used to mint coins.
A true DDO / DDR is actually caused from the doubling already
being on the die when the die was made. People make mistakes at times. I never make Mistrakes though :) not from a normal die that moves around and causes doubling on the coins decvices during the striking process. Have fun looking and learning. You can learn something new every day on here. I know I do
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And that's why I came here. People on here know a whole lot more than I do and it makes it easy to ask questions.

The one thing I do not understand is why did it only happen in these few areas.

Why wasn't the whole of the coin affected?

Still learning..

Thanks, people.

Dale
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The die was probably not solid on all edges and only a part was moving. From strike to strike the doubling is different from strike to strike:
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