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Morgan Dollar CC 4 Year Action Study

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 Posted 07/10/2011  11:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Seascape to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Maybe there is an easy answer to my question? I am somewhat new but ran a 4 year Red Book study on just a couple CC Morgans. Here is an example of what I found.

2008

1881
VF-20= 350.00 MS63= 1000 MS64= 650 MS63= 600

2012
1881
VF-20= 450 MS63= 650 MS64= 75 MS65= 1000

Note: MS63 went down 350

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2008

1885 CC
VF-20= 500 MS64= 800 MS65= 1750

2012

1885 CC
VF-20= 550 MS64= 800 MS65= 1300 **** note MS-65 went down 450.

I spent some time and noticed this among other grades,mints,years ect..... But almost every advice column I have seen encourages envesting in the most expensive coins you can afford. Trying to collect using a method to my madness.

Anybody want to chime in on this? My data is from the 2012 Red Book.
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07/11/2011 2:41 pm
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 Posted 07/11/2011  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go get your free membership at Heritage Auctions (ha.com), and enjoy access to their online database of over a million coin auctions going back almost twenty years. That way you get to see what real-world sales prices have done, rather than estimates in some book.

Why is Red Book listing prices for a coin (1886-CC) that wasn't minted? No CC Morgans were minted in 1886, 87 or 88.
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That is obviously a typo on the 1881 MS-63 price from 2008. Why would it be $1000 in 63, but only $650 in MS-65
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From the prices, I'm going to guess he meant 1885 instead of 1886, but I'm not really sure. There are too many typos in this analysis to make sense of it. Anyways, welcome to the forums!
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 Posted 07/11/2011  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That is obviously a typo on the 1881 MS-63 price from 2008.


Ah! Yes. 1881-P, and 1881-CC maybe.

Obvious to you, maybe, but not to me.

Except it doesn't agree with the thread title. I'll concede a typo - this ain't a point worthy of nitpicking - but my point regarding Heritage stands.

Yes, they're a single-source reference, and therefore not necesssarily indicative of industry-wide trends. Taking 1881-CC in MS65 as an example, though, they have record of 899 individual sales going back to 1993. That's a decent sample. 1885-CC/MS65 is similar, with 895 results.
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well in early 2000 I was buying gsa black box morgans 82,83,84 the common dates for $115.00. The same morgans are selling for $175.00-$200.00 at this time. They will always go up but the dollar compared to when you bought it is now weaker.
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I wasn't nit-picking about the title saying CC and not have a CC on the 1881 data, My point was if all those grades and values were for the same issue P, S, CC whatever, if the price for a MS-63 is 54% higher than for a MS-65 of the same thing, there is something wrong with the data. A typo, either his or in the reference he copied from.
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