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How To ID Casting

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 Posted 07/18/2011  3:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have only been a member of this forum for a short period, but I have heard a lot about fake coins being cast. One of the telltale signs is a casting seam along the edge. Does anyone have pictures of what a casting seam looks like? I know some of us would be very grateful.
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This recent thread has an excellent example. Look at the third picture, of the edge. There's a line right through the middle of it, especially visible on the left side of the picture.

The seam is caused by metal leaking out of the gap between the two moulds used to make the fake coin from. Genuine coins were (almost) always struck, not cast, and nothing in this primitive minting process touched the edges of the coins. So genuine ancient coins should not have such a seam.

Fake-makers know that a casting seam is surefire evidence of a fake coin, so they (or secondary on-sellers) may try to file or grind off this seam from their more blatant cast jobs. So look for file marks on the edge of a coin, too.

The other thing to watch for on casts is the bubbly surface. Now here, I must be cautions. A pitted, rough-looking surface may be a sign of casting, but may also be perfectly explainable on a genuine coin as corrosion. But a distinctive sign on cast coins are "bubbles", extraneous dots and points on the coin's surface that are raised up, rather than pits that are sunk down into a coin. Such a feature is caused by a bubble of air getting in between the mould and the seed coin which the mould was made from, creating a hole in the mould. So if you find dots, spots and other raised features that "shouldn't be there", you've most likely got yourself a cast fake.

On the cast fake linked to above, look in the centre of the obverse, on Arethusa's cheek - there's a "beauty spot" there, a raised dimple. Ancient Greek artists were idealists who preferred their artwork to be defect-free, so we know for sure that that particular dimple cannot have been on the original die a decadrachm was struck from. The only explanation is it's from a second "die", in this case a casting mould. Once you know what to look for, you can see similar dimples all over the surface of this coin.
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Thanks SAP. As you have already deduced, I am a novice making all the mistakes a novice would make. I see what you are speaking of in the link you provided. It seems rather blatant in that example, and as you said, easy to see. I wonder how I will do when the sample is not so blatant or when the seam has been masked in some way or another. Also, when participating in auctions on-line, most pictures do not show the edge so I presume one must wait till you have the coin in hand in order to verify. One of my coins you identified in an earlier thread as a fake I purchased from a legitimate dealer. Admittedly it was on-line so I did not have the luxury of holding it and examining it (I have since contacted the seller about the coin and am waiting on a response). Anyway, to be concise, I am now afraid to purchase coins on-line. This is going to make my hobby much harder to pursue. Additionally, I am afraid to examine my collection as the results may be heartbreaking. Oh woe is me.. Again, thanks immensely for your answer and your help on this forum.

As a side note, I know you are from Australia. I was there once working with your military up in the hinterland. Nice country from what I got to see.
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