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1876 CC Trade Dollar, Opinions Needed

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 Posted 07/20/2011  09:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello found a person selling this Trade dollar.
He doesn't list a price just says will take reasonable offer. I've still got a lot to learn with these so any advice or help will be greatly appreciated. Is it real? Or its real, just really fake? LOL And if real what would be a good price to offer. Its listed as EF,
Does the CC M/M add a premium as it does with Morgans. Thanks for your time. And help. Heres the coin.
It looks cleaned to me.



1876-CC-Trade-Dollar,-Opinions-Needed

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07/20/2011 09:26 am
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 Posted 07/20/2011  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CC's are highly desirable on ALL U.S. coinage, Trade dollars are no exception. However, many members justifiably so indicate that Trade dollars are among (if not) the most counterfeited U.S. coins in the world, especially since they were intentionally meant for trade in the Orient back when they were originally produced. Buyer beware! I would look elsewhere, and pick up a certified Trade dollar from one of the Top Three Third Party Certifiers.
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07/20/2011 09:30 am
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 Posted 07/20/2011  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
agree buy a graded coin way to many replicas/fakes.
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 Posted 07/20/2011  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks oih82w8, yea these are probably the most counterfeited. Its just if this were sitting in a slab, I couldn't afford it. I know this opens me up to buy an expensive paper weight. And normally I wouldn't even consider it being I haven't had much experience with them. But I stumbled upon it, And if I can add one to my collection for a decent price. I've got to take the chance. Being hes asking for offers could mean its fake and doesn't want to imply anything. Or it could be a hand me down or inheritance and is not aware of the value. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to Rob him. Just save a few bucks.
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 Posted 07/20/2011  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can certainly relate to your financial situation, just about everybody is in that boat. Look at it this way; if you like it, buy it. You only have to satisfy one person; you. Then again, you only have one person to blame if you are not happy with your purchase; you. When making any purchase, ensure that there is a return policy. If there is a "No Return" policy, run! Most honest sellers would take it back if you are not satisfied. Success!
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 Posted 07/20/2011  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An XF-40 1876-CC Trade dollar in a slab is a $900 coin. The mint mark adds considerable value. Are you ready to risk that kind of money on a coin which was counterfeited literally from the day it hit the streets?

The photos are not sufficient to either grade or determine authenticity. Trade dollars are one series I would not venture to buy raw unless I were perfectly capable of authenticating it myself, in-hand, which means I'd never buy a raw Trade dollar.
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 Posted 07/20/2011  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i agree only buy certified Trade dollars
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I'm a certified coin buyer. And that one I deffinatly would want in either a PCGS or NGC slab.
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 Posted 07/20/2011  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just throwing this out there for ya.. I have two listed on ebay at the moment (75S & 77S). The 77S was in my Type Set but I've upgraded and am selling it. One ends tomorrow and the other on Friday. I have had them in hand and guarantee them to be genuine. Don't know if I'm doing a "no no" by promoting them here, but I'm trying to help you with your dilema.... Paleoguy45
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 Posted 07/20/2011  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doh! Might help if I gave you a link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...RK:MESELX:IT

You can look at my other items and see the 75S. Paleo
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 Posted 07/20/2011  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chewyduck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn it Paleo, I just bought one 1 hour ago. Still shaking a little. I told the seller I would have it graded by a TPG, and he said ok, no problem. So we'll see.[twistehttp

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWNX:IT
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 Posted 07/21/2011  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea its tough on this side, I thank you all for your advise. I've been very lucky so far, well guess you wouldn't call it luck cause of all the work and fun that goes into my collection. Darn it, I was hoping to find some examples in Making the Grade. But I couldn't find any. Time to look a little further into it. Once again thanks for all the advise. Anyone have any thoughts on her face. And I remember reading about a fold line or crease around the edge that will be a tell if its fake or not. I'm not positive but I think I see something on the obverse rim 12 to 3. Is that normal. I know its asking a lot from the pics provided. I'll see what I can do with getting some more.
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 Posted 07/21/2011  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One thing to remember is...
The pictures are HORRIBLE....and your supposed to make an evaluated judgment call if its reall? OH I realize most of us don't have a camera in these days...A cell phone can take a decent shot/..now with the blury photo we chase after one of the most counterfited coins UNGRADED...One must remember there are a lot of GRADED Genuine Trade dollars out there...buying RAW is like buying counterfit these coins have been and still have been attacked as there are no laws in CHINA for reproduction of
US coins...They fake every thing...by the way,,,if your interested in a long term investment... a RECENT Chinese friend gave me the title to the BROOKLAND BRIDGE I can whole sale it for a modest price....let me to the WORD document so I can write up the details...
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 Posted 07/21/2011  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a general rule, any Trade dollar listed at a bargain price relative to its PCGS or NGC value is fake.
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