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Fakes, Frauds, And The Stuff You Neeed To Make Them

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We're all aware of the phony rare coins out there, but it makes wonder just what kind of equipment and knowledge or skills would you need to mint your own coins? I guess you'd need artistic and engraving talent to prepare the dies, and then you'd need the raw metal and a way to melt it, and then you'd need a very powerful press to actually fashion the coin.

Just wondering to what lengths those talented crooks out there have to go to pull one over.
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How much equipment and skill you need depends entirely on how good you want your fakes to be. You can make an awful fake using a lump of plasticine for a cast mould and some molten metal. For more convincing fakes, you need a high pressure coin press to make the dies, then make the coins. For the most convincing fakes, you need to get the metal composition just right, and the easiest way to do that is to buy a bunch of more common coins from the same period and melt them down.

I assume you've seen the pics of the fake coin workshop in China.
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No, I hadn't seen those pictures. That is indeed scary!

You never know what those Chinese might be up to: Fake Apple Stores

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The easiest made fake I have come across is an Indian 5 Rupe mimic. Two fifty paise coins were glued together and since both 5 rupee and fifty paise coins have almost the same diameter, the two stuck together gives that exact feel of a 5 rupee coin. You will never identify unless you look at the coin closely. So you spend one rupee and get value for 5 rupees!! How is that?
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A lot of fake things come outta China. Pretty soon your favourite tooth paste will be fake!!

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A lot of fake things come outta China. Pretty soon your favourite tooth paste will be fake!

What do you mean soon? Just where do you think it's made now? If you look around my favorite is batteries.
Dinocell, Durocel, Duroncell, Duricell and on and on and on. Not sure I know the real spelling any more.
As to coins my favorite was a Walking Liberty half. It was Lead. Someone told me lots of them were made not long ago with only tin foil and a real Half. Press the Half into a sheet of Tin Foil, gently heat the foil, pour hot Lead into it only about half a coins worth. Then repeat on the other side. If your carefull, you can make two halves about half a coins thickness. Glue them together and gently heat the edges and PRESTO, you have a really heavy, faked, dull looking Half Dollar.
If you try this remember there are numerous types of Solder on the maket and even Silver Solder. The weight will outdo any real one massively though. And be carefull. They bend easily. I gave mine to a kid.
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