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Watch (Sorry Not Coin) Metal Identification

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 Posted 08/01/2011  12:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Really sorry about this, because it is not a coin, but I want to know if this watch is gold or brass or another metal. It has little bumps on it, all around it (except the metal inside of it):


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 Posted 08/01/2011  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of all the gold watches I have ever seen, the back cover will be gold also.
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 Posted 08/01/2011  01:13 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like brass and I agree with Tunnioc. Why have a gold watch without a gold backing?
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This watch has a thin gold plated brass case. The case was not made in Japan, but the movement was.

I suspect that the case was made in Korea or China

The movement is probably a cheaper Seiko one, made in large numbers for the case manufacturer, who probably had a few different case styles at that time, designed the take a standard movement.

Horology (the science of time keeping), can be a fascinating subject.

I have a granfather clock, or should I say, an English farmhouse clock, the movement made in London and sold by a one Edward Martin in Dover, in 1795. The clock as a whole is a composite one, because the case is of early Victorian vintage, in English oak, black laquered.

Forgeries abound in classic watches of all eras.

I am not saying your watch is a forgery; I certainly don't think it is, nor was there any intention of it being so. It is just a commercial production deliberately made that way.

I have been in the Grand Bazaar in Instanbul, and have seen many fakes and forgerys of classic 17th and 18th century watches and marine chronometers of the 19th century.

They see a western tourist and say "I have one of the rarest and most desirable classic watches you are ever liable to see anywhere!". I say under my breath 'LOOKOUT!'
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 Posted 08/01/2011  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks,I kind of knew it wasnt gold in the start, just wanted to check. Here is the story, we went to a garage sale and the man was selling random stuff he had in his big truck. Everything was a dollar, 10 cents, all like that (he was even selling an old computer, a screen and a keyboard for 1 dollar). He sold me the watch for 10 cents. And now I find out some are worth 200$+.Thanks again guys.
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 Posted 08/01/2011  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It has little bumps on it, all around it

That is your key indicator right there- those bumps are analogous to zinc zits on a Zincoln, plating corrosion.
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 Posted 08/02/2011  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, perhaps a thin coating of gold on base metal, not even brass. A nice thing about "real" gold is it holds up forever.

On old pocketa watches, there are two interesting variations; nice cases on crappy works, and high quality works with base metal cases.

The nice cases went for presentation, like graduation or retirement. The cheap cases with highly accurate works went to conductors, who were checking their watches every few minutes, with runs where the time zones changed in 4-minute intervals. Most even required a pin be pulled out to change the time, to prevent accidents.

Another thing to look for is RGP, for Rolled Gold Plate. Similar in construction to clad coins, with a brass center and outer layers of Karat gold. Some call it by gold content (1/10 12K RGP, on eyeglasses, means the outer 10th is 50% gold, for 5% net content before wear), while watches would say 10, 20, or 25 year guaranteed. The year meant that they would guarantee the gold layer wouldn't wear through in that many years of being pulled in and out of a watch pocket.
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