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 Posted 08/05/2011  03:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australi...em3cba8321ee

Interesting looks cool, how is this done..
A die stamping it wouldn't produce this,
So could this of been done when the planchet was cut out.
Unsure about the whole coin production process, does the 50c coin go through a riming process.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a clipped planchet error. If the coins are made by the same process as US coins, the metal used for the coins became overlapped as the planchets were being stamped out of the flat metal stock. I've seen up to 3 clips on a US coin.

On a clipped coin you should see any details that are near the area of the clip fade into the missing part of the planchet. I see what I think could be the rim fading at the edge of the clip, but I'm not sure.

I made a larger copy of the clipped area.
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I'm curious about this error, too.

I'm sure someone who knows Australian errors will take a look and give an opinion. I know what to look for on a round US coin, but I'm not sure on this coin. I don't see the same kind of markers that I would see on a US 50 cent coin.

If it is a true clip, I'm surprised another coin fits exactly into the missing area, because the metal would flow into the clipped area, but the process may be different for Australian coins.

Can anyone help with this?
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 Posted 08/05/2011  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gecko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats different.
Have not ever heard of one of these before.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have a look through this site.
http://www.australian-threepence.co...strikes.html

There are some excellent articles that explain how many of the error coins end up looking like they do.
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So the Blakesly Effect wouldn't show up on this coin. That was one of the reasons I didn't know if the striking process was different on this coin, as I didn't see the effect on the opposite rim. I really don't see enough of the design fading into the clip either, so I'm not sure it's a true mint clipped coin. It seems that more of the design would be weak at the clip, and I said before, I don't think the 2nd coin would fit exactly into the clipped area.

Just my opinion, but after reading the site above, I would pass on the coin, as it would be an easier coin to fake because of the lack of the Blakesly Effect.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't take the chance on bidding on this item from ebay
It looks ok but too way too suss I think it got the chop chop from a shop
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 Posted 08/05/2011  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is straightforward with his photos. It's interesting, but I'm with the rest--if it's a clipped planchet, I don't know what to look for....
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Looks genuine to me.
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I think it's genuine. I'd be happy to have it in my error collection.

If it was a home made job, there would be tell tale signs elsewhere on the coin where it had been 'held' in a vise or whatever, as that amount of metal wouldn't be able to be removed unless the coin was held very still. Just my humble opinion.

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 Posted 08/05/2011  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clipped planchet. No Blakesley effect on these because the rim is formed during the striking process rather than prior to striking by an offset mill.
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 Posted 08/10/2011  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice clip
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