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2 Cent Rotated Die Question.

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I have a 1864 2 cent piece in about fine maybe a little better condition. You can see the W but the E is very faint, has a very nice even chocolate color to it though.
Any way.. it has a 180 degree rotated die on the reverse, or technically I guess it could be rotated on the obverse. Is this common for 1864 Two Cent Pieces? I know it's more common in classic coins I just didn't know how common on Two Cent Pieces. Thanks for any info.
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180° rotation is fairly common on the 2 cent series especially the 1864..
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Thanks nohope. Thats what I figured but had to ask.
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I have one also. Same year, same 180 degrees out.

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one of the most common dates on one of the most common series for rotated dies (there are always a handful of these rotated 1864 two-cent pieces on ebay), but they are still very cool.
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There are many rotated reverses on many coins but really difficult to tell. Most people don't even know US coins are made so that when you flip them over top to bottom, they are still upright. And in doing so, it is difficult to keep them straight so even when slightly rotated, not noticed.
Odd that in the famous Red Book, pages 404 and up, there is no mention of rotated reverses as an errror.
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Is that 2¢ piece red Paleoguy?
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That it is....
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Here's the rotated 2 Cent with its neighbors:

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On the topic of rotated dies, I have an 1864 2 cent piece where the reverse is rotated about 15-20%. Is this more common, less common or about as common as ones where the die is rotated 180 degrees?

Here's a really bad picture taken with my iPhone, but hopefully it's clear enough to see what I'm talking about...

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Thanks!
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Yours is much more common. The closer you get to 180 degrees, the rarer it is. Anything under 90 degrees does not add a premium, unless it is on a very low mintage coin.
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Rotated reverses can actually help when purchasing some coins if the dealer isn't to swift. Many times I've haggled a dealer down excessively on a coins price due to showing a rotated reverse. Since this type of error is not usually explained or discussed, many dealers think or suspect it will deter from selling so they will lower the prices on them. Mercury dimes are my favorite for rotated reverses. If you put them in an Album and make sure all Obverses are up, then turn the page and usually you would find about 20% or more are tilted all over the place. I used to try to figure out which is more common, tilted to the right or left.
If you find a coin with a dealer that has a rotated reverse, mention you might not buy it due to that and usually they will drop the price a real lot.
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