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I don't generally collect ancients or anything before around 1500 but ended up with a few ancients in a collection. So... My oldest is this little beauty   According to what I found out here or on Numista, its a Carthaginian copper tetra which dates to anytime between 400 and 180BC. It shows I think a male god on one side (Baal?/Apollo?) and a horse on the other. I suspect this is nearer 400BC and likely pre Punic wars. The fact this lump is like 2,300 years old is just scary, I need to honour it a bit more. I also have 3 Roman coins from around 300AD including one of Diocletian and 2 of Constantius II My oldest not from antiquity is my shilling of Edward VI   The mintmark places it to sometime between 1551 and 1553 which is 1,900  years younger than the tetra, yet still 470 years old! My oldest coin with a proper date is the Commonwealth Halfcrown from 1656, making it 366 years old.  In general, the 17th century is where I get a few more coins with the halfcrown and shilling collections containing several 17th and 18th century coins. The 19th century is where it really comes alive though, Regency and Victorian coins just become so much more available. I like them as they seem old and distant, yet are still modern in many ways. I know a old tradesmen's token from 1863 or a 1836 shilling is not like some 5th century BC Greek coin, but its not 2012 cent either! My collection is more about context, quality and interest levels rather than age though. My favourite era for coins is actually quite late - its the late Victorian to mid 20th century era (1887 - 1946) which is either much younger than all you Classical and Medieval collectors and much older than all you people going nuts for the modern coins and NCLT! Edited by Princetane
05/10/2022 02:37 am
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Going by countries
Ancient - Carthaginian Tetra - 300BC
Roman - Diolceltian Radiate - 303AD
Arabic - Indian Mughal copper - c1500s
English - Edward VII shilling - 1551/3
Dated coin - English Halfcrown - 1656
Milled Coin - Charles II Halfcrown - 1670
European coin outside UK - Dutch Riederschilling - 1688
Americas - Spanish 1 Reale 1780 (Mexico city mint)
Canada - Wellington Token - 1813
Token - Coalbrookdale Halfpenny - 1792
France - Napoleon Franc 1811
Steam press coin with collar - 1797 Cartwheel Tuppence
Southern Hemisphere, non English - Chile 1870 50 Centavos
Australia - 1858 Tasmanian token* (Will have in next week)
New Zealand - 1857 (Somerville and Day and Mieville Tokens)
Pacific Islands outside NZ, Australia - Fiji 1934 (Complete set of coins)
Africa - South African Republic Halfcrown 1894
USA - 1865 3 cent nickel
Newest coins - Australia 2022 mint set.
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Update for September 2, 2017...
Oldest overall: either the Olbia dolphin mentioned above or, more likely, the Kyzikos hemiobol (5th century BC)
Oldest coin-shaped, and oldest silver: said Kyzikos hemiobol (also undamaged, and non-billon)
Oldest coin-shaped I know the attribution for: Pantikapaion AE, ca. 389-379 BC (Anokhin 87)
Oldest coin-shaped I know and can trust the attribution for: probably still the 220-210 BC tetrachalkon (the coin mentioned above is so dark that I can barely see the design)
Oldest dated: honestly, no idea (and, again, does it count if the date is off flan?)
Oldest dated I know the date of: AE of Antiochus VII, Seleukid era 174 (= 138 BC)
Oldest AD dated, oldest US, oldest Russian, oldest English: no change (though I came close a few times on the first two)
Still no actual gold either (though, IIRC, yet more Siberian copper). Update for May 10, 2022 - weirdly enough, a lot less change that I'd have expected... Oldest overall, oldest coin-shaped, oldest silver, oldest dated: still same as above Oldest AD dated: still the 1517 Salzburg zweier (no change, but the previous post didn't mention it) Oldest US: damaged 1801 large cent Oldest US silver: a Seated Liberty but I don't recall the date or denomination Oldest English: a Charles copper, don't recall enough about it to even tell which Charles Oldest English silver: (still) the 1699 fourpence - probably staying there until I find a medieval English coin somewhere Oldest Russian: ...does Tmutarakan count as Russian? One of those (don't recall the exact attribution offhand) Oldest attributable Russian: either the above or about two thirds of a Vasily II denga (ca. 1446-62) Oldest undamaged Russian: not counting the Tmutarakan, possibly still the sword kopek, but I might have missed some other purchase I forgot Still no gold, and probably no gold for a few more years yet, depending on how the politics work out. |
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I'm a slacker in this crowd since I don't collect ancients.
My oldest coin of any type is a Carolingian denier of Lothair I (840-855).
My oldest dated coin is a Sicilian follaro dated AH533 (1139 AD)
My oldest coin bearing a Gregorian calendar date is a Stuiver of Flanders dated 1474.
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You are being ironic?
You are pretty much the king/queen of all the medieval and renaissance masterpieces around here!
Some people in this thread have coins only 150 years old, yet you have heaps of 16th and 17th century classics and medieval Islamic coins.
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My oldest dated coin is a Sicilian follaro dated AH533 (1139 AD) I hope to get one of those eventually! It's said to be the first coin type, anywhere, to be dated in Arabic numerals. [EDIT: fixed typo] [EDIT 2: some phrasing changes] Edited by january1may
05/11/2022 04:39 am
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Amazingly, I seem to have missed this thread all the time I've been on the Forum!
Going by countries
Ancient - Dolphin coin from Olbia (as mentioned by january1may) or a little obol from Aegina with a turtle on it (possibly 5th century BC)
Africa: Egypt Ptolemy VI Philometor, Second sole reign, 163-145 BC
Roman - Augustus, As (reverse altar) 27BC - 14AD
English - Edward the Confessor penny c1050
Asian coin - bronze from Sri Lanka, King Parakrama c1175
Dated coin - Hungary 1 denar 1557
Milled Coin - English sixpence, Elizabeth I 1562
European coin outside UK - France 1 denier, Philippe le Bel c1285-1314
Americas - Mexico 8 reales 1785
USA - New Jersey one-thirteenth of a shilling 1787
Canada - Nova Scotia halfpenny 1832
Token - Various English 1600s
Steam press coin with collar - 1797 Cartwheel Tuppence
Southern Hemisphere, non English - Peru 4 reals 1836
Australia - 1910 Edward VII 3d, 6d, 1/- and 2/-
New Zealand - 1881 (Milner & Thompson, Christchurch)
Pacific Islands outside NZ, Australia - Fiji 1934 penny
Newest coins - UK 2022 mint set and Estonia 2 euros
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My oldest is that same as it was the last time I reported my oldest.  |
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You are being ironic? I just meant some members have coins a millenium older than my oldest. |
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This is from not long after I started the Hungarian Denar collection. Since then my oldest is 1000-38 under King Stephen I.   |
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China 998 - 1022 Song Dynasty one wen.  |
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