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How Does One Sell Copper Pennies As Bullion?

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 Posted 08/10/2011  12:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add snoman70 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Now to further complicate the issue...without the losses of paypal and ebay, and without just taking face value? And local! (not that I mind shipping)

Where does one advertise to sell them? As I'm roll searching I'm separating. I've got a couple hundred face in them right now. I don't want to sell all of it, or for that matter right now, any of it...but in the future, I know I'm going to want to. I've been doing a box a week, but with winter getting closer, I've already increased my order to 4 per week. That turns in to a lot of cash to have sitting in a bucket.

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 Posted 08/10/2011  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are not permitted by Federal Law, subject to a very large fine to melt them yet so we can't really called them bullion pennies yet.

But yet some people do save bulk copper pennies and of course if they are Wheaties that makes it better.

Get 250 post and try to sell them here or ebay or local paper.
I am not really sure if there is a large market for them or not. I save them and I have more than a few pounds but it is not something I would buy in bulk unless for face value.

You can get present bulk prices by goggling bulk pennies there are several companies that current sell bulk copper pennies.
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 Posted 08/10/2011  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about copper cents from Canada, has anyone tried selling them to the
metal scrap yards? And how about British large cents ..

I have been wonering if I should be picking them up for bullion
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 Posted 08/10/2011  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Copper is at $3.98 a pound. So if you have $100 pounds it will make you $398. It is going to take a lot of pennies to store in the house. But since you can't melt US pennies you have to store them for a long time.



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 Posted 08/11/2011  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In addition to being illegal to melt pennies, it is also illegal to take a large amount of them out of the US.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or Canada, if that's where your from.

In answer to frosty, http://www.craigslist.org (local) or http://www.ecrater.com (ship)

Keep in mind you can ship two bags in a flat rat USPS box.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's funny how it is illegal to melt pennies, but anywhere you have a museum, they have those machines the smash (deface) the penny and imprint the museum stamp on it. How is that not illegal?
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 Posted 08/13/2011  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loon22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It probably should be. It's defacing the coin.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Defacing isn't illegal , technically melting isn't illegal either. The problem stems from melting or defacing then selling. The reason you can smash those pennies is because you're the owner defacing them, they're not being sold to you. If you do sell a smashed penny it's technically illegal , just like melting then selling.

There are more than a few videos out there of people melting pennies for fun , which is legal , but melting & selling is illegal. Once we transition over to steel pennies or some other, cheaper version whether it be steel or plated aluminum. It takes around 145 pennies to make a pound of copper, so $1.45 into $4
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i might be mistaken, but I think the rule states that melting pennies (and nickels) for PROFIT is illegal. does that mean you can melt them and store them in a reconstituted form (bars, rounds, etc) for PERSONAL use? anyone know that actual verbage in the rule?
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So, since bullion isn't money, technically, couldn't you trade that copper for gold or silver to get around using dollars?
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 Posted 09/08/2011  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The reason you can smash those pennies is because you're the owner defacing them, they're not being sold to you. If you do sell a smashed penny it's technically illegal

That is completely absurd, there is NOTHING illegal about selling or creating elongated cents. As I type this post, there are 4,467 listings on ebay in the Elongated Coins category and every single one on a US coin is perfectly legal to sell. Defacement/mutilation is only illegal when done for fraudulent purposes.


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I think the rule states that melting pennies (and nickels) for PROFIT is illegal

The melting of cents and nickels is illegal regardless of intent. The purpose of the melt ban was to prevent the mass withdrawal of copper cents and nickels from circulation, which can lead to coinage shortages for commerce.
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 Posted 09/10/2011  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess we still need copper cents circulating because the zincolns deteriorate rapidly.
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