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cazzuey's Avatar
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 Posted 08/15/2011  1:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey folks,
What do you say? Has this one been cleaned, I'm suspicious due to those hairlines. http://cgi.ebay.com/1899-NEWFOUNDLA...t_2509wt_698
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 Posted 08/15/2011  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is one on my site that appears to be normal surfaces. I think its the small nines variety but I'm no expert, you be the judge. nlp
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 Posted 08/15/2011  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey nlp, could you shoot me a link to it?
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cazzuey's Avatar
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 Posted 08/15/2011  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oops! I was looking under Canadian Coinage
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 Posted 08/15/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly does appear to have been scrubbed!
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 Posted 08/15/2011  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes.. NLP Coins is the 'small 9' variety, and the OP's coin looks to have been lightly cleaned.
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 Posted 08/16/2011  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uncle al to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, I believe it to be cleaned. I am looking at the two "G's" on the obverse, and there seems to be some tarnishing there, but no where else. I see two light sources, one from about 12 o'clock and the other from about 6 o'clock, and the A in " land" still shows some spots in the lower part of the letter.
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 Posted 08/20/2011  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coin looks to have been heavy cleaned, look under top of 1
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 Posted 08/20/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay needs to add these to coin listings under Item specifics Circulated/Uncirculated: & CLEANED/UNCLEANED
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08/20/2011 11:24 pm
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 Posted 08/27/2011  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the seller on ebay is a reputable coin dealer he will always diclose that the coin has been cleaned. I have sold several cleaned coins that I have bought, and have always informed the buyer that is a cleaned coin. You usually don't get as much money for them but I have never had a customer come back and complain because he knew it before he bid on it. If you don't disclose it, your cheating your customers and they don't come back.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely, this coin has been cleaned
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 Posted 08/29/2011  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dukester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the member's opinions on whether a coin is cleaned or not. But I am curious. When a coin is taken from an ebay auction and comments are made, are there any legalities involved? Is there a point where a person can be sued for expressing an opinion?
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 Posted 09/02/2011  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sellers are always given the chance of rebuttal in ebay comments. Also ebay does have a process for appealing a comment left, which I believe favours sellers (IMHO).

As far as being sued (I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, if you require such advice, consult a lawyer) I'm fairly certain that you can be, if you go over the line with it. Where that line lies probably depends a bit on the jurisdiction, but in any event libel laws would likely extend to ebay feedback (in the extreme cases).

Must better to stick to facts. The seller in this case didn't advertise it as a cleaned coin, but also didn't offer a grading opinion (they said high grade "details" which is almost meaningless). Additionally they will likely fall back on the "ask before you buy" defence to anything negative.

If the coin hasn't shipped, you can probably get out of the deal, and let them 2nd chance it to the next lowest bidder with only a minimal out of pocket expense for the learning experience.

Caveat emptor
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