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1963 Quarter With Jf Mark, Weird?

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 Posted 08/17/2011  12:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Panfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just got a quarter from the store that looks uncirculated. Its from 1963 and looks brand new, very shinny. The only trademark I can find is on the fron at the bottom of washingtons neck above and a little to the left of the 3. It says JF. Is this a fake coin? The cuts feel very new and feels slightly lighter then other quarters.

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 Posted 08/17/2011  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are the initials of the creator of the obverse and reverse designs of the coin, John Flanagan.
There is no reason to think that it's a fake coin.

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 Posted 08/17/2011  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i cannot find anything about this coin or what its worth, could anyone help me out?
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 Posted 08/17/2011  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've indicated that you found a 1963 Quarter with JF on the front under Washington's neck to the left of the 3. And it's really shiny, brand new. And you wanted to know if it's a fake coin because of the "JF".

I told you that the "JF" is the designers initials, and that there is no reason to believe it's fake.


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i cannot find anything about this coin or what its worth, could anyone help me out?


I'm now forced to guess that you don't know what a Quarter is. Since it has a picture of Washington on the front and the date 1963, and "JF" under his neck by the 3, I'm guessing that it's a 1963 United States Quarter Dollar. Apparently in mint state ("brand new, very shinny").

Concerning it's value there are 3 distinct and separate answers to that question:

1. It's worth 25 cents.
2. It's worth a $7.20 for the value of the silver content.
3. It's worth more than $7.20 depending on HOW new and shiny it is.

For information about this coin, see the following Wiki on the Washington quarter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_quarter

For more information about the value of this coin based on how new and shiny it is, see the following table:

http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/c...de2=pricesms

Hope this helps you out this time,

Steve



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 Posted 08/17/2011  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But wait, there's more!

Upon further consideration, based upon your description, it is possible that what you have is a 1963 PROOF Quarter Dollar! That would be REALLY shiny!

You can see information about Proof coins here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_coinage

And you can see information about Proof value here:

http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/c...de2=pricesms

Steve



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 Posted 08/17/2011  04:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a pic, unfortunately I couldn't get my scanner to show how truly shiny it is. However we can get a look at the quality I suppose. The JF cant be seen but its there.

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 Posted 08/17/2011  04:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's a Proof Quarter. It is 90% silver. Since it has been circulated and shows it well on George's cheek and hair it is now an "impaired Proof" and carries no more value than its silver content. About $7.20 +/-.

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 Posted 08/17/2011  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can you tell it is a proof from scans?
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 Posted 08/17/2011  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Panfast

Whytlash has it nailed, the coin looks like an impaired proof. It's rare to find a proof in circulation, as they are sold by the mint just for collectors and it's GREAT to find a silver coin of any kind.

IF the coin were perfect and I mean no one had ever touched it and it had never rubbed against other coins, it could have been worth $10 to $50 and maybe more. For it to be worth more than $50, it would have to be in the top 1300 1963 proofs minted and they minted 3,075,645!

Once a 1963 proof quarter enters into circulation with all the other coins, any value to a coin collector drops to the value of the metal. In this case it's 90% silver and with silver at $40.04 per ounce, the coins value is $7.24 at 5:30 AM central time. The price changes all the time, so by the time you read this, the coin could be worth a little more or a little less.

You could try to sell it to a coin dealer, but the chance of getting the full value of the silver is very low. You might get around $6.00.

Your best bet would be to try and sell it on ebay, but make sure if you do, you let buyers know it's an Impaired Proof that was found in circulation.

The OTHER thing you could do is keep the coin. That would make you a speculator in silver and because you only had to "pay" 25 cents for the coin, you're way ahead of the game. If silver goes up, which overall it has in the last 6 months, you'll get more. How much is the trick of speculating Precious Metals. Just as an example, if you found the same coin 1 year ago, it would only have been worth around $2.75.

Nice find.
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 Posted 08/17/2011  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The cuts feel very new and feels slightly lighter then other quarters.

This is a good time to point out how subjective weight descriptions can be misleading. They say if feels lighter than other quarters when it is actually 10% heavier.
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 Posted 08/17/2011  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you guys sure that's a proof? The reverse looks like a type A to me, but the image is pretty small.
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I'm never sure of anything in a photo or scan, but it would make sense that the coin was a proof. The description that Panfast gave matched with the fields of the coin in the scan make me think proof. It was different enough for the OP to track down Coin Community and register, post and then scan the coin, so it must be something different than a normal '63.

I've used a scanner with coins that were both proof and proof-like and they looked the same as the scan above.

So, based on all the information I had, I said it looked like a proof.

I did do an overlay in Photo Shop to see how it matched a known proof and it's almost perfect. Here's what I came up with.

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 Posted 08/17/2011  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are awesome, very helpful.

I think i'll hold onto the coin and perhaps in the future it will be worth more.

Again, thanks for being so courteous and helpful.
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