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1913 $5 Gold

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 Posted 09/15/2011  9:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Went to a auction tonight, picked up what I think was a deal. What do you think of condition/value?

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 Posted 09/16/2011  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i like it :) how much did you pay?
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 Posted 09/16/2011  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The following image has been published. Could you please provie better images of your 1913.

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 Posted 09/16/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll take a few more.
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 Posted 09/16/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to have same ding in O in DOLLARS as a counterfeit. At least the auctioneer should help you get your money back from seller if you act quickly with concerns.
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 Posted 09/16/2011  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks like it to me too
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 Posted 09/16/2011  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1913-$5-Gold

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1913-$5-Gold

Weight is 8.4grams according to my gram scale.
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 Posted 09/16/2011  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
close up pictures make it look like a counterfit..I'd get this checked out right away if I were you.
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 Posted 09/17/2011  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great to see the counterfeit image, thanks for sharing M... I have added this to my fake file..

I couldn't agree more...Get it checked out asap to recoup any monies..
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 Posted 09/17/2011  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info and documentation shockergd. Looks to be a conterfeit example in the pic. Do you know if that mark on the O is just found on the 1913 5 dollar conterfeit gold, or are there some 1912 & 1914 5 dollar and 10 dollar conterfeit coins out there?
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 Posted 09/17/2011  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the composition of these counterfeits?

Is there a link to counterfeit designs? I have yet to seriously get into coin collecting because of my fears of counterfeiting. I don't think I am experienced enough to make a purchase like that and avoid being suckered. So far my collecting has been hand-me downs and NCLT's only out of fear of counterfeiting.

I have purchased a few dated coins (nothing expensive) in the past from Colonial Acres, any issues with them? I am interested in getting a gold sovereign (dragonslayer) coin as a birthday gift this year since it is a big year for me and I have always wanted one. Any suggestions of where to get this safely?
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 Posted 09/17/2011  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fact that this coin is virtually flawless and I would never have been able to tell it is a counterfeit if I was the one purchasing it makes me not want to collect coins anymore.
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 Posted 09/17/2011  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The composition of the counterfeit (the image I posted) is .4 gold. The weight and diameter are correct. It hails from North Africa circa 1965 approx. This example now resides with the RCMP travelling fake show.
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Mr.nickelsguy, have you ever seen one of these counterfeits in a TPG holder?
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yup, in an NGC holder. But they are too stupid to talk to a Canadian counterfeit guy......unlike PCGS (chortle)
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Boy, these fakes are starting to look way too real. I probably would've just bought that coin, if I'd seen it on ebay, not even questioning its authenticity at all.
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