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southsav Pillar of the Community 2224 Posts	Posted 09/20/2011 8:29 pm I've gotten stuck attributing this 78P and need some help, here goes. You're looking at a 78 P, 7tf, short nock PAF. I think I pinned down the reverse correctly as a B2c. Can someone confirm? Reverse has the broken are for tiust, appears to have some doubling or its MD, e in We may be partially filled, the o in God is closed, and the polished space in the right wing next to the eagle's leg. I see no polishing marks on the wreath. No other PUPs on the reverse. The obverse has me confused. I see no doubling in the motto or date. LIBERTY is doubled though which isn't noted on any VAM. There are no chips or doubling in the date. There does appear to be a small chip in the corner of the eyelid, not as significant as noted on some VAMs. The 4th star has the broken point. I see no wheat lines, the ear is not uneven (IMO), LIBERTY is not thin. I'm concluding V 185 as I concentrated my search from V 160- V 198 because of the B2c reverse. But again, I would have thought the doubled LIBERTY would be significant. Too much thinking. Any and all thoughts/opinions appreciated. Report this Post to the Staff

twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 09/20/2011 11:17 pm What is that between the 18---78 8\7 I have one that is driving me up a wall as well I will post mine and let you look over mine and I will change my focus on yours. Lets see if that helps us both Russ Report this Post to the Staff
southsav Pillar of the Community 2224 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 07:43 am A piece of lint in the holder. Edited by southsav 09/21/2011 07:44 am Report this Post to the Staff
SeatedNut Pillar of the Community United States 2797 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 1:42 pm Sorry I can't access VWorld from my work location to help ID this one, but you're on the right track. It's a B2C (Vams 134, 160-198). If memory serves, focus on the weak wing and tail feathers. The 'P' has no doubling so forget 160-168. I'll give it another look when I get home. Report this Post to the Staff
southsav Pillar of the Community 2224 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 3:46 pm The weak over polished wing is definately there and the 7tf, PAF with short nock all point to the B2c reverse. The obverse has confused me with the doubled LIBERTY whereas I can find no notation on any 78P VAM with it. Absent that, 185 looks best for it but I was hoping for some comments on the lack of LIBERTY doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
SeatedNut Pillar of the Community United States 2797 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 9:57 pm Not a 185 due to the lack of this diagnostic. Check the 186. There's only one partial obverse photo of the date, but most of the verbiage matches. Check for metal fill in the upper part of the lower loop on the first 8. Report this Post to the Staff
southsav Pillar of the Community 2224 Posts	Posted 09/22/2011 09:01 am Thanks everyone, SeatedNut - I think it is the 186 and thanks for ruling out the 185. Looking again at the 1st 8 lower loop it does fit the verbage well. Any comments on the doubling of LIBERTY? Report this Post to the Staff
SeatedNut Pillar of the Community United States 2797 Posts	Posted 09/22/2011 11:56 am You're welcome. Regarding the doubling in Liberty ... it's a fairly common diagnostic for the 78-P so it was probably not listed. The VamWorld site normally only lists the most prominent/distinguishing features, enough to help folks differentiate and attribute their coin. Very few list all pick-up points that differ from a "normal" die. I jacked one of your photos of the "Liberty" and added a couple of arrows to show the die polish lines referenced in the VAM 186 listing. Report this Post to the Staff
southsav Pillar of the Community 2224 Posts	Posted 09/22/2011 5:41 pm Thank you sir! Report this Post to the Staff
ilikeikes Pillar of the Community United States 1205 Posts	Posted 09/26/2011 7:16 pm cool jacked up pics! Report this Post to the Staff
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