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After hearing people reference this list I was astonished to see some of the listed values for recent mintings of Lincoln cents. How does PCGS come to these values? Are they realistic? I see coins minted as recently as three years ago listed in the hundreds of dollars in the MS65-68 range. The RedBook shows these in the 2 to 3 billion range for total mintage. The coins I am referring to are not error cents, but standard production pieces. Am I missing something or do I need to be looking more closely at the cents I find in rolls from the past decade? If the PCGS values are accurate it would seem there is a small fortune to be made from the "Zincoln Hoard". I am eager to hear from our other esteemed members
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Although finding pristine examples of modern Zincolns is rare, PCGS price guide tends to be quite inflated.
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I'll add to that quite driven by their marketing department, too, IMHO. In other words, if they were all cheap prices, if that's all their slabs were getting, who'd want their coins in PCGS slabs?
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The PCGS price list is wildly inflated and purely speculative. One classic coins their pricing is more realistic as most high grade, high value coins have been sent to third party graders for authentication, "official grading", and encapsulation for easy sale. For modern releases you have to realize that nearly all high grade coins in Proof State and MS are not submitted by these grading companies because the cost to grade and slab a modern coin is more than the coin tends to be worth.

A 2008 Lincoln Cent in BU condition is still only worth 1 cent. Would you invest in grading of this coin if you thought you only had a 50/50 chance of it being graded past MS65? Probably not. I know I wouldn't. Would you pay $75-80 on one at MS69? when there's hundreds if not thousands of MS70s out there in the population as of yet ungraded.
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I am eager to hear from our other esteemed members

Not sure what you mean by esteemed but it sounds like me.
My theory about either the PCGS or NGC price listings being so out of wack is for a buisness reason. You take a coin and look it up on their price lists and say to yourself, HEY, I've got a valuable coin. Think I'll get it graded and slabbed by that TPGS. Not sure if that is their reason for such massively overpricing but sure seams like that is the main reason. Why else would they say a $0.50 coin is worth many dollars?
Even the Red Book, for some reason, is similar with excessively overinflated prices.
For a decent price list I usually tell people to buy a 3 or 4 year old Red Book and look up coins in that. Or just go to ebay and see what they are selling for.
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Business strike Zincolns are fairly tough at 68, very rare at 69, and virtually nonexistent at 70. The Mint uses a planchet rinse that causes black spots to form on almost all Zincolns over time, those spots are what precludes the coins from receiving those lofty grades. PCGS has graded exactly one business strike MS70, it was later downgraded to MS69 after it developed a spot. PCGS had to write a huge check over that one and they now have an unwritten policy of not grading ANY business strike MS70 as they assume it will eventually develop at least one flyspeck.
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