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The Fed And The Strong Dollar

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It seems to me if the dollar keeps rising and the stock market keeps dropping,the Fed is going to step in and whack the greenback. I figure Dow 10000 is about the magic mark. Will we see more QE? I don't think they have many other options! Jim Cramer said it today,if we can't get the dollar to back off some,equities are going to continue to struggle. I don't believe even "operation twist"can keep investors in an equities market that is dropping by triple digits on a daily basis. Another QE would probably send inflation into explosion mode as weak as all of the other currencies are and that would probably result in a commodities re-inflation,especially PM's! Any thoughts or conjecture?
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There are reasons to agree with that speculation. WE have some data saying that we face deflation now more strongly than we have since the great depression. Since wed have a debt based cultrue and global economy, the govt has to spur inflation to keep up the facade of "growth"
Meanwhile, the Swiss, who have always had sound currency did something unthinkable for them a few weeks ago, when they announced that since the high strong value of their franc was killing their export industries, they were taking steps to undermine it to keep them on a par with the rest of the fiat debt based Europeans.
It was nearly twenty years ago that the Mexicans were forced to abandon sound currency and move to fiat money. That was manipulated in a "join us or else" scenario.
So yes, until there is a revolution of some sort to throw off banker controlled economics and pay attention to the principles of the founders, we will live under the thunder of a currency printing press rather than a free press
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The dollar is gaining strength but only in comparison to other fiat currencies. When it is compared to gold, it doesn't seem nearly so strong.

The recent PM sell-off had a lot more to do with equity margin calls than it did with PM fundamentals. Those fundamentals have not changed a lot for gold or for silver, although the platinum and palladium fundamentals have changed via recessionary pressure on 2012 auto sales. Because of all this, both gold and silver appear to be headed upwards once again. We saw considerable strength in silver at $34-35/oz. and again at $40-41/oz. Where it is headed now is likely the lower level of these two where it will likely settle for a time before moving back up into the low $40s. After that, difficult to see... always in motion the future is!
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There IS inflation, but it is not showing up in the foreign exchange rates.

The current strong dollar is a response to the current massive sale of Treasury Bonds

How may pay rises have lower paid Americans had since 2008, and have had to face increasing an increasing cost of living? And what has the recent 'strong dollar' done to that?

From what I can determine, highly paid Americans DO get regular remuneration increases.

Looks like the same conditions are arising that set up the French Revolution!
How many were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge?
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10/04/2011 07:20 am
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There IS inflation, but it is not showing up in the foreign exchange rates.

I agree that there is inflation and also agree with others who have calculated this by the pre-1995 US government approved method that shows it to be nearly double that shown by the more recent government and Fed calculations of "core" inflation. Unfortunately for those of us who live in the real world and not in the on paper academic world, food and fuel are must have items. Not counting them in inflation is scientifically invalid. A scientist cannot decide to eliminate some numbers merely because they produce a result that s/he does not like. Apparently, economists and bankers can do that. Back to your point, though... so, where is the inflation showing up internationally? I can see it in numerous food and fuel prices locally but was wondering where you think it is in the world at large.


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The current strong dollar is a response to the current massive sale of Treasury Bonds

According to Uncle Ben, the Fed is buying Treasuries on the long end and selling Treasuries on the short end. Are you saying that they are selling more than they are buying? If so, I had not heard that and was thinking that they would be buying and selling in approximately equal amounts so that their balance sheet would not be changed by this.


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From what I can determine, highly paid Americans DO get regular remuneration increases.

I would agree with that. Higher paid Americans tend to be more experienced and better educated. Many of them are in technical fields, such as computers, software, engineering, science, and medicine. It is routine for such key employees to be well paid and for that pay to exceed inflation. Many of these employees are in high demand, so are more mobile than lower paid workers. Most businesses that have such employees work hard to retain them. In today's economy, lower wage employees are in low demand and many are available for even a few job openings. The law of supply and demand is in full swing in both cases.

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Insofar as the Treasury Bonds are concerned the buying of long termers and selling of short termers by the Feds. has triggered an inflow of foreign money into the U.S., thus making the U.S. dollar more desirable in the short term.

That is why I used the term 'strong dollar' in inverted commas. Most commentators that I have heard say that this inflow is fairly temporary.
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US Treasury bonds seem a lousy investment, regardless of duration. Considering how taxes and inflation affect one's gain on an investment, both of these have to be earning less than zero percent. I'm thinking that the bulk of this traffic in US Treasuries is a knee-jerk reaction to the troubles in Japan and in Europe... that plus a generous dose of inertia on the part of investors who think that these instruments are still worth buying. With big cap blue chip stocks paying 3% and better dividends, buying US Treasuries looks pretty poor by comparison. Perhaps it is just that the stocks are not backed by the "full faith and credit" of a hopelessly debt-ridden government?
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