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Coin I Sent To Buyer Was Stolen!

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 Posted 10/06/2011  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that is an unfortunate circumstance. It's not worth your time to try to do something with a post office over in Denver or whatever. The managers at the post office won't care, they're worried about their own jobs, especially now, and the local police certainly won't care.

It might be worthwhile on the older gentleman's part to do something if this keeps happening. He may be being targeted and his action could scare off the culprit.

Also, consider that this may be on your end. Someone targeting YOU and knowing the YOU sell lots of coins. You did say it wasn't even postmarked. Your "local guy" could have ripped you off and then just thrown the package in the pile un-postmarked. Doesn't surprise me that nobody at any distribution center along the way gave a sh!t, this is the USPS we're talking about.
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 Posted 10/06/2011  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have recently purchased a few inexpensive coins on ebay (under $10) and I am surprised the sellers (three different) sent the coins just taped on a card inside a regular thin paper envelope with just a 44 cents stamp on it. No padding, no delivery confirmation. Risky business I think.

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I'm starting to put packaging tape around the whole envelope this way, effort will be required to open it.
At least its some sort of deterent. This is just the world we live in. Sucks.
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Hesgut, I use to work for the USPS. Biggest bunch of morons in the World. Treat employees terrible!
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 Posted 10/06/2011  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah.... how did the package arrive at its destination if the stamps were not cancelled? Personal delivery by a postal worker?
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 Posted 10/06/2011  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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how did the package arrive at its destination if the stamps were not cancelled?


Stamps go uncancelled all of the time. Just today I received a package that had over three dollars of uncancelled stamps on it. These days, stamps are becoming a rarity with the post office favouring the postage paid stickers. You don't get stamps unless either you put them on or you specifically ask for them, and if you ask for stamps to be used, they just give you a funny look. It would suck to be a stamp collector these days, lol.

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 Posted 10/06/2011  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I worked at a UPS air hub while in college. Packages and envelopes were frequently mostly due to poor packaging but also just by accident. We tried to do the best we could pack everything back into the box but sometimes that just wasn't possible. If a box or envelope gets caught in a conveyor line and breaks open sometimes we couldn't find the content or know how long the box had been open. While someone might have stolen your coin, it is also possible that the glue on the flap failed and the coin fell out.

I also saw some strange packages. The most memorable package was a pair of panties in a clear plastic bag with the label just stuck on the bag. We also delivered a flap from a cardboard box!. It was obvious that the flap had been torn off a package but my supervisor insisted that the flap be sorted and delivered since it had a label. Moron!

I second the statement above about insurance. Regardless of what you state in your disclaimer, if the buyer says an item was missing Paypal will refund their money. Insurance protects you not the buyer. I purchase insurance for items over $50 and take my chances on item less than that. Price your shipping to include insurance if you aren't willing to take the risk to self insure.
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 Posted 10/06/2011  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I also think you should report it to the U.S.P.S so at least it is on record and if a pattern of this develops investigators will have another piece of the puzzle.

I also sgree with the sentiment that you are highly unlikely to get the coin back.

But the point is: If you do nothing, nothing will eventuate. Your short letter may be all that is required to close an investigation. It might be the one to open one.
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 Posted 10/06/2011  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4033ryan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can people do this kind of stuff, they have to live with it...
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This sucks but I might have to insure every coin I sell, no matter what the value. I don't want to take a loss. I hear getting your money back through the USPS system is a Greek Tragedy.
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 Posted 10/06/2011  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
vermontensium,
I just noticed that your returned open envelope did not have ebay/paypal USPS shipping label...
if you use the ebay/paypal USPS shipping label system, the tracking on 1st class mail is only about 19 cents.
This might prevent a postal worker from taking coins since the package is tracked through every stop.
tracking is only about 19 cents vs to insure coin is about $2

BTW: when you where on vacation in Arizona was it to visit where your mom or dad was born?
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 Posted 10/07/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave, as an extra safety measure I also put all the coins into a ziplock bag with a label inside. If the envelope contents fall out or are removed, hopefully someone will want the reward.


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 Posted 10/07/2011  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurtkurtles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to go off-tract but BadThad are you from Cincinnati? I live in Covington. Right across the river. Small world..
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 Posted 10/07/2011  01:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say it's 50/50 as to whether it was a theft or accidental loss. I work in this industry, and can tell you firsthand that the sort machinery can be quite hard on an item and the adhesive on those mailers just isn't up to snuff. Really what you want is an adhesive that will not give without destroying the package. Also the bubble mailer's adhesive likely doesn't go all the way to the edge of the flap, leaving a little lip that the wheels can catch on. Between those two things it can rip it right open, without even ripping the package.

Lesson here is to always tape your seam, and leave no exposed edged for things to catch on.
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Sorry to go off-tract but BadThad are you from Cincinnati? I live in Covington. Right across the river. Small world..


Yep! Another member here, Ken, lives about 5 minutes from me. There's actually a few CC members from Cincy and NK.
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