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Pillar of the Community
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It's my understanding that they at least were for a spell created in the Philadelphia Mint. That would explain these quirky little events called "OMMs," which, of course, would dictate you've got both punches in the same facility. The branch mints were simply distribution points. Can we get some insight on this? Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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A good question and I have no idea who or where they are made. Interesting since if made be a company somewhere, I wonder who watches them.
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Rest in Peace
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It's my understanding that the dies have always been made at the mint. For a long time the die shop inside the Philadelphia mint mades all of the dies for itself and each of the branch mints. But at some point each branch mint started making their own dies. I don't know what year that started.
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Just a bump. Let's just say if you missed this thread and you feel you know something we don't know that might help us to better-understand, this is your big opportunity.  |
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The following comes from the USMint website.
"All master dies, including those used in the Mint's numismatics and medals programs, are manufactured in the Die Manufacturing Division of the Philadelphia Mint. Mint marks are placed in the hub at Philadelphia. This hub is the tool that produces the working dies used to stamp the coins. Working dies are then delivered to the appropriate Mint facility for coinage purposes. In addition, all working dies needed for the Denver facility are produced by the Denver Die Manufacturing Division along with some of the dies for the for the United States Mint at San Francisco. Because of its secondary position in any coin designs, it has been the custom to make the mint mark as inconspicuous as possible and still be functional. "
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Bedrock of the Community
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All master hubs are created at the Philadelphia Mint. Until 1997 all of the master dies, working hubs and working dies for all the mints were made in Philadelphia. Since 1997 Denver has made its own master dies, working hubs and working dies using a master hub from Philadelphia, and all the other dies are still made in Philadelphia. Since 1990 the mintmarks have been on the original models so each year three master hubs have been made for each denomination, one for each mint. One exception to that was the cent master hub during the early 90's. During that time only two master cent hubs were made, one for Denver and one for San Francisco. After the master dies for Denver were made the D mintmark was ground off the hub and it was then used to create Philadelphia Master dies. This ended after improper grinding lead to "Phantom D" and "Phantom S" cents turning up. The D's from incomplete grinding and the S from excessive grinding.
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Thank you.
Conder101, do you have any specifics on where the '44-D/S and '46-S/D likely happened? As in, what mint?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Although Conder101 makes it sound official and probably information direct from the Mint, I suspect something different. I suspect that all dies for our coins are now made in China. This is done so the Chinese will not have to spend money making fake ones for our faked coins. And just where do you think our coins are made? I wonder if I called the Mint I'd be directed to an office in India right next door to the tech support people for AOL and HP.   All just kidding, maybe. |
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Here is a brain twister for you, we have also made coins for other countries. The idea of China making our coin isn't so far fetched. So at what point would domestically made coins be the imposters to overseas originals? Lol
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Bedrock of the Community
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Since the Philadelphia mint was making all the dies in 1944 and 1946 the overmintmarks were made there. The dies were I believe shipped already hardened and the branch mints did not have the mintmark punches so trying to repunch the mintmark at the branch mint would not be practical. If they needed more dies it would have been much easier to request them from Philadelphia than to have them shipped from another mint (which would probably have resulted in delays that permission was requested from Philadelphia to do so) and then rework the die(s).
When would a domestically produced piece be the imposter? When no domestically produced coins of that date were made.
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