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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just bought this coin of Victorinus today. These are the seller's pics. I'd be kicking myself if I passed it up; it's really nice IMO.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NIce coin! Out of curiosity, just how common are Victorinius coppers?
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not really sure; there were quite a few of them for pretty cheap on vcoins (btw my coin isn't from vcoins), so I'd say somewhat common maybe? Maybe jw or bobby knows.
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They are not particularly rare, and I love all the Gallic Emperor coins. Your coin is a nice one. I got one earlier this week, but its not in as good of shape as yours. I own three. One with Salvs, one with Pietas, and the last with Pax reverses. The Salvs is my best and I think your coin is better IMO. Congrats on the find.

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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jw. It was listed as being from Southern Mint. Do you know which city that is?
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And when you say Gallic emperor, you mean of the breakaway empire right? If so, this would be an interesting (at least for me) addition to my collection.
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NVM just checked Wikipedia. It is.
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The likely mints for all the Gallic Emperors would be Cologne or Trier. If they indicated southern mint, it would probably be Trier. I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think these were the two main mints for the Gallic Emperors. Milan is another mint used by these Emperors, but not near as much as the other two mints.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, don't have one his yet.
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The Gallic emperors are known primarily from the coins they minted. The political and military history of the Gallic Empire can be sketched through their careers. Their names are as follows:

Postumus 260 - 268 (including joint rule with his son Postumus Junior ? - 268)
(Laelianus 268, usurper)
Marius 268
Victorinus 268 - 270
(Domitianus 271? usurper)
Tetricus I 270 - 274 (residence Trier)
Tetricus II 270 - 274 (son of Tetricus; caesar)


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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Believe it or not nobody knows for sure where the 'Southern Mint' was. His coins are an area that we are not at all sure about. In all honesty these coins are usually attributed wrongly by the sellers so you should prob do it again yourself.

I attributed some of mine recently so will dig the links out for you. I could only find 2 reliable websites on the subject. Nice coin, the Gallic Empire is a very interesting subject, one of my favourites

Here is some info on how it all started with Postumus while I search for your links.

https://goccf.com/t/76996
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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting info guys! I just love finding out the history behind my Roman coins. A nice surprise too, learning it's a Gallic Empire coin.

BTW it's 3 grams and 19 mm.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one of them - may take a bit longer for the second.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/la.../gallic.html

The mints are named on this page but some of the references just state things like 'Mint I / Mint II' as we dont really 100% know.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just saw your link and my coin is under Cologne (since mine is Providencia Avg).
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 Posted 10/09/2011  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure who put the site together but its good one and the writer really seems to know his stuff - thats prob as good an attribution as you'll find on the net.

You can also record your coin as an 'Issue 5' meaning chronologically it was the last to come out of that mint - date wise late 270-271 would be correct.

This is another example where bust styles have been used to differentiate coins to certain mints and overall styles have been used (or at least partially used) to put the coins in some kind of issue order.
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The seller attributed it as RIC 61. The RIC 61 description and pic on Wildwinds seem to match, and also Helveticas also seems to be in agreement with the attribution.
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