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Price Of A 09 S VDB What Would You Do

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 Posted 02/02/2012  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
There is not a whole lot of traffic (65 views) on the street to my VF-20 1914-D I have in "Pocket It Now" (until Sunday when it goes on ebay)...it has a "twist" to it ..."rotated die" that is, easily seen in the ANACS Slab pictures. My asking price is below Numismedia FMV too!

I would rather a CCF member purchase it versus someone I don't know.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinvet to your friends list
If there was such little difference in price and I could afford it, I would go with the best grade.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list
If you can save $1000, you can save $5000. I say wait until you can afford something in the MS range.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list
Rookie question...Why are the 14d's harder to find than the 09 s vdb's? There were 484,000 09 svdb's and 1,193,000 14d's. This is a big difference in the amount minted. Just curious.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
Part of the reason was that there was controversy over VDB at the time, so a lot of them got saved. Same story with the "no cents" V nickels - they're the lower mintage, but are more common in high grades because they were saved.

It's also famous, which means it comes to market more often. Price appreciation gives more incentive to an owner to sell. Semi-keys have appreciated less than the famous keys, so owners reluctant to let them go and effectively lose money. Also, if you're a dealer who just bought a collection, 1909-SVDB the first one you're going to try to flip because it's the fastest way to get your money back out.

Other series are similar. 1916-D Mercury dimes are widely available in low grades (though VF-AU are genuinely scarce). There are a whole bunch in FR2, AG3 and G4 available on ebay all the time. The same is true of 1921 and 1921-D. If you buy a collection of Mercury dimes, those are the three that get pulled out. Heck, all the rest might end up in the melt bucket if the dealer is impatient. But if you start looking at the semi-key dates in nicer grades it gets interesting. Dates like 1926-S or 1925-D in XF or AU are priced much lower than 1916-D in FR2, but good luck finding a nice one!
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 Posted 02/03/2012  03:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Why are the 14d's harder to find than the 09 s vdb's?

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 Posted 02/03/2012  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enoilgam to your friends list
Personally, I'd spend the extra money and get a good one. The S VDB is an expensive coin - so if your in for a penny, go in for a pound (no pun intended). Also, as enworb said, the S VDB is the centerpiece of any lincoln set, so it would be a good idea to have the centrepiece really stand out.

I was in a similar position to you a couple months ago in that I needed a key Australian commemorative florin to complete a type set. In VF, the florin is worth about $350, but in Aunc its worth about $500. I figured that if I was going to spend that much on a coin, I might as well go out and get a great one for a bit extra dough.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list
Thanks for breaking it down for me guys. You learn something new everyday. Before reading this I would have guessed the 09 s vdb would be much harder to find. The only two I have left before completing this set is the 14d and 09s vdb.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
At any given moment there are about a roll of svdbs on ebay. That makes it barely scarce.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list
I would buy now while prices are maybe somewhat down. I did just pick up a slabbed graded 40 with no problems or details for under $150 more than the price you listed. I would think that once the economy rebounds the price will go up.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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At any given moment there are about a roll of svdbs on ebay. That makes it barely scarce.

Possibly true but we should all remember that this is one of the most counterfeited coins in the world. Just how many are fakes? How many people have a fake in their possesion and don't know? Unless it is slabbed and even then with all the fake slabs around, it is really a chance today on getting one that is real.
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 Posted 02/04/2012  05:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Even if half were fake, it's not a rare coin by any standard. Valuable and popular, yes, rare no.
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 Posted 02/04/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add f16 to your friends list
yeah I would put it in a slab
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 Posted 02/04/2012  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I would not worry about matching exact to your set - it is more about look than exact grade in my opinion. If you can get a nice VF at a good price, it is still going to fit in with your album in my opinion. At first glance, they are all going to look like brown, circulated Lincolns.

If I were to look at your album, the first thing I would say is - wow, you've got the 09-S VDB slot filled. Then I might pull out a loupe and say "oooh, that's a nice one". I doubt it would even cross my mind that some of your others might be G-4. I'd just think "wow, nice completed circulated set".
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 Posted 02/04/2012  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
With me most people that look at my #1 set say "Is that one real?"
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