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1971 S Proof Nickel

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 Posted 01/29/2007  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekurt to your friends list
well, since you asked bruce, I started to do it about a year ago (searching through rolls of coins) and just got addicted! when I buy rolls of pennies, its a no brainer that I will find at least 10 wheaties in about $20 worth of coin. so far about $60 worth of nickels and found 3 silver War Nickels and this crazy proof coin. I also find foreign money, and weird tokens and stuff. its definitely a way to pass time and have something to do with the wife and her nephew who hangs with me a lot. I buy like $40 worth of coin once or twice a week and when we sit down its like "who got the lucky rolls tonight?" so go buy some and get searching!
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 Posted 02/01/2007  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BRUCE 1947 to your friends list
Hi Kurt,
I'm confused, I have been searching rolls for over 20 years or were you thinking of someone else.
Bruce.
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 Posted 02/02/2007  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list
Why not search? It will help you learn to grade. Also, Go find a 1992 P Close AM cent. I believe that there may only be one currently known...Maybe two. That would be a real find. Ditto the 1992 D. Still very rare. 1992 D is priced pcgs at $3000.00 or so in M.S. Ya never know. Mostly though, just enjoy and share. Gusp
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 Posted 02/02/2007  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
First thing I wonder about is how did a proof coin get into circulation. Many possibilities though. inherited coin collection that went right to a bank, home robbery and crooks just spent the coins, someone just got tired of collecting and spent all the coins. Regardless, it's yours now so great find.
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 Posted 02/04/2007  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekurt to your friends list
thanks just carl, and bruce, sorry I totally didnt mean you! lol...
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 Posted 02/04/2007  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BenVA to your friends list
Coin roll hunting can get addictive. It has hit me pretty hard over the past few weeks. I have made a few good finds. Never had much luck with quarters or dimes though. BenVA
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 Posted 02/06/2007  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list
How do you know it's proof and not just a fantastic regular strike? I have found some wheaties that look "perfect" in rolls, but never thought of them as proof, just uncirculated or, after closer look, polished.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
quote:
How do you know it's proof and not just a fantastic regular strike? I have found some wheaties that look "perfect" in rolls, but never thought of them as proof, just uncirculated or, after closer look, polished.


It is impossible for it to be a "fantastic regular strike"- only proof S nickels were made that year, no business strikes.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list
That answers that nicely.but I was asking generaly as well, since others have stated they have never found one. How would you know a proof that had been circulated? I have several proofs I want to take out of the case, or cellophane and drop in airtites, but if I do, how can someone tell proof from MS
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 Posted 02/06/2007  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
Most proof get into circulation because they are culls. There are companies that bust these sets up by the thousands to assemble rolls but coins with little problems are unsaleable. Many people who buy proofs expect them to be perfect and will return coins or ets that have coins with minor problems so it's much easier to simply not use these coins. The rolls are sold to wholesalers who build up the date/ denomination sets that you see retail in magazines or the TV shows.

The culls are simply redeemed at the bank and they get mixed in with regular coinage at the counting houses. These rarely circulate very long because people grab them out but back in 1996 I did find a '68-S quarter worn down to VG.

Proof coins are made by dies that have been basined and polished. Basining flattens the fields of the die so that the coin will have mirrorlike fields. Frequently the high points will be frosted which is sandblasting and a chrome coating applied to the die. The proof coins are struck twice. This will cause all the detail to appear and will normally result in the rims on both sides of the coin to be square in cross section. Modern proofs are supposed to have an "s" mintmark and almost always do.

There are a few business trikes which can be very similar in appearance to proofs. Most of these originate in mint sets which have coins struck at even higher pressure than the proofs (but struck only once). But even coins struck for circulation can be quite PL (especially cents).

It's not always possible to tell from seeing the coin but it's rare that you can't tell after you have some experience with them.

The real problem is trying to tell business strike from SMS. ;)
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 Posted 02/06/2007  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list
Can someone post a pic of a nickel with full steps and one without steps? I have been wondering about this for some time now.
Thanks,
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 Posted 02/06/2007  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
That answers that nicely.but I was asking generaly as well, since others have stated they have never found one. How would you know a proof that had been circulated? I have several proofs I want to take out of the case, or cellophane and drop in airtites, but if I do, how can someone tell proof from MS

Most proofs are easily spotted by the mirror look of the background. However, if circulated enough the entire thing is just a circulated coin and will show wear, scratches, nicks, dents just like all coins. The original mirror look will vanish. Once you take the proof out of the original Mint package it is always suseptable of being touched, scratched, etc. and that is why you see so many people at coin shows with magnifying glasses. I would say Loupe but never sure how to spell it. Mostly during the last 30 years or so all proofs are S mint coins and no other coin has the S mint mark except the proofs. Again, a few mint errors of proofs are none with out the S lately.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekurt to your friends list
cpfull, the other guys answered the question pretty well, but i'll still drop Two Cents for ya.

when my nephew pulled it from the roll immediately he said (and I quote) "dude, dude, dude, something is wrong with this nickel, dude, dude, oh my god..." and I didnt think anything of it. when I picked it up though it was the shiniest, sweetest coin I have ever seen, and I hadnt seen a proof coin before. well, we got some whitman folders and when I was trying to find the 1971 s in the folder it didnt exist, there was no spot for it. well that sent my nephew through the roof. he now claims himself the "man" because of his find.

well, after researching the Red Book and google, it was very easy to see that mostly all proofs are S mint. I believe even the pennies dimes and quarters. so thats the easiest way to tell.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list
Well, I don't like to brag, but- ok I do like to brag! Never found a Proof nickel, but I have found a Proof Roosevelt dime, Kennedy half, Ohio and Georgia quarters, and a SBA dollar! Of course, I see a lot more coin than most people, but I'm not on the teller line much anymore so I don't get to go through the coin as much as I used to. They all stuck out like a sore thumb- even the half which is pretty beat up. The sharpness of the strike is what caught my eye. That is an awesome find- my Proofs were some of my most exciting finds!

Rachel
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 Posted 02/06/2007  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
Even the '68-S quarter with a lot of wear stood out like a sore thumb. It still had squarish rims despite a lot of wear and there was still a lot of detail in the lower areas of the coin. It wasn't shiny but it still appeared proof.

I've found many proof quarters over the years but I go through rolls and these are the most numerous since they've had little premium to face value on the wholesale market. Only ten years ago a roll of $10 quarter proofs wholesaled as low as $14 and they were a little harder to sell. That's all changed now.
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