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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote:The standard RCM capsules used for new silver dollars from the mint seem to be about 40mm outside diameter. Is there a coin box or tray specifically designed for this size capsule? This is my question from 2011, and the answer: No. Badly, RCM doesn't distribute the boxes to fit their coins in the capsules. But, there are plenty of boxes from the subscriptions. Unfortunately, there is no subscription, hence the box, of the coins in SD format. The single recent series that I recall - "Traditions of hunting" and "Banknotes" - both contains the SD format coins , both come without the box. CORRECTION: "Vintage SDs set" - 6 SDs set distributed by RCM in the box. "Exploring Canada" - 10 coins subscription comes with cardboard box. RCM original solution to keep SDs in RCM capsulesYou might consider the solution: (everything depends on amount of coins that you want to have in the box): ***4-5-6 coins: use the RCM box for 38mm coins - the SDs in original RCM capsules will not be tight there, but also not loose. *** 6 coins - use wooden box for 6H Air-tite - the SDs will enter the H size air tite capsule, not perfectly. ***All the amounts: You can use Lighthouse big boxes for quadrum capsules up to 60, or small Lighthouse boxes 2-12 coins for quadrum capsules, while placing the SD in original capsule just in the cell. The coins will be loose. And all above "enhancements" just scream: why someone will not manufacture boxes for different amount of different coins in their original capsules?
Edited by Silveroid 10/14/2015 2:37 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@AlexA: I have over 100 Canadian SDs in my collection with most still in their original RCM capsules. These capsules fit very nicely into the Lighthouse MB Caps 36 coin trays that I imaged above. The trays allow the display of 20 SDs at a time and allow me to store my entire SD collection in six attractive well-made trays with RCM and Lighthouse capsules side-by-side. Together they take up very little space and beat the heck out of a bunch of wood or cardboard boxes that hold fewer coins and have to be opened up each time I want to look at my collection.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Quote:I have over 100 Canadian SDs in my collection with most still in their original RCM capsules. These capsules fit very nicely into the Lighthouse MB Caps 36 coin trays that I imaged above. How well do the original RCM capsules fit into those trays? Are the coins loose or do they move around?
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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@AlexA: Not sure exactly what you're looking for... As I've said, the RCM SD capsules fit very well into the coin wells in the MB CAPS 36 trays. No, they are not a "tight" fit - there's about 1 mm of space around each. (Refer to my image above.) This small amount of "open" space enables the coin capsules to be easily removed from the tray but do not allow for any significant movement of the coin capsules while in the tray. I explored a variety of options for my collection and believe this to be about the best in terms of functionality and attractiveness. Best of luck with whatever option you choose to pursue!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Thanks for the help. This seems like a good option. I will track down the tray at a LCS and take a closer look.
Cheers!
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If you're looking for capsules, Imaginaire out of Quebec has the best selection and prices I've found for a Canadian store. $3.50 for most 10 packs of capsules, and best selection of sizes. Shipping is reasonable too. Site sometimes switches back to French when you're navigating through it, just click on English at the top right of the page. I've ordered from them once and it went smoothly. If this link works, it will take you right to the capsule section: http://www.imaginaire.com/indexv2.j...2.jsp&nppp=T
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just googling to search for various ways to store my NCLT silver dollar collection and found this thread. Seems the options are still quite limited.
Commens, thank you very much, I think Lighthouse MB Caps 36 is the best choice.
Edited by wildflowerAB 03/23/2016 10:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
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The superbest choice here will be: buy old RCM SDs in their capsule, but verify, that the capsule in great condition, and use it for your coin. That way you will ensure that coin suitable for the ever made slots / boxes for the Silver Dollar. Using of Lighthouse capsules - this is the optimal choice, due to the low cost of new capsules.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks for the advise Silveroid. I think I do have some extra older RCM SDs of not much value that are in capsules. So I suppose I could swap them out and then use the RCM capsules for SDs from proof sets. Frankly I never realized the outer dimensions of RCM and Lighthouse 36mm capsules were two different sizes until recently. But I'm not finding any trays or compact cases made for an exact 40mm coin capsule size anyway. It's as if collecting Canadian NCLT silver dollars is such a small market that it's not worthwhile to create a customized presentation case. This is where I sort of get ticked off with RCM, they produce these things year after year and then what's a collector supposed to do - store them in a plastic storage bin? <just ranting>!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I've also had the notion to (very carefully) put each of my entire SD collection into square Quadrum coins holders, which would open up more options for display cases/boxes. Half of my mind says go for it, they're yours to display in whatever way you like but the other half is blinking a warning signal that I should not open the Special Edition SDs in RCM coin capsules because it might negatively impact their value in the future. Comments?
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Quote:Frankly I never realized the outer dimensions of RCM and Lighthouse 36mm capsules were two different sizes until recently. But I'm not finding any trays or compact cases made for an exact 40mm coin capsule size anyway. You *CAN* put the standard RCM SD capsules into the Lighthouse coin tray MBCAPS36 (20 spaces for CAPS36). The SD capsules will be a little bit loose in the tray. If that is a concern then change the capsules to Lighthouse CAPS36. Quote:It's as if collecting Canadian NCLT silver dollars is such a small market that it's not worthwhile to create a customized presentation case. This is where I sort of get ticked off with RCM, they produce these things year after year and then what's a collector supposed to do - store them in a plastic storage bin? <just ranting>! This is a perfect sales opportunity for the mint: offer a wooden RCM collector case for Silver Dollars. Same idea as the new case for the 1oz and 1/2oz coins. In fact, it could simply use the same case with a new tray for SDs   
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Alex, I wholehearedly agree it's an RCM marketing opportunity and when RCM released their collector case I was at first hopeful it might pose a solution. The quasi odd-sized Canadian silver dollar seems to get lost in the more popular US and Europeancoin collection market that Lighthouse mainly focuses on. I like the look of the Volterra Trio three layer presentation case but there's too much wasted space in the 48mm sized compartment, holding 60 coins per case. And the 38mm which holds 90 isn't quite big enough for SD capsules, with no other size in between.
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Pillar of the Community
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I was fortunate to find a sale at Colonial Acres for - 20 Empty official RCM Cased Dollar Box with capsule (the capsules are used but in good shape). The box will fit any Canadian Silver Dollar issued from 1935 to Date. Cost was $1.42 per clamshell with capsule.I paid $28.40 for the lot of 20. I have since purchased dollars raw from 1972 and one in a scratched capsule from 1974 for discounts ($9.95 and $7.95 respectively) and just put them in these. The capsule is the sort that the mint handed out so they have the proper width, they are used but very clear. I am happy to have made that investment for 20 spare silver dollars. I used one for a 1939 Silver Royal Visit Medallion. It is nice to have the old clamshells. See pics and be on the lookout for supply sales.    
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Pillar of the Community
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SilverDon, this is great purchase. The capsules looks like new and you did well buying, even if you do not need the cases.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hmm, including my 1939 silver Royal visit medallion with my silver dollar collection because it's of equal size, now that's a thought!
There certainly must be a lot of clamshells/capsules out there considering more and more SDs are getting graded/slabbed. Something to watch out for. If I could have a wish granted by the case-maker gods, it would be to have one wooden case with a clasp, 4 or 5 trays, compact yet sturdy, that would hold about 24 (4x6 per tray) SD (40mm) capsules. One of the reasons I've been patiently waiting is all too often a few short months later after I've settled for the best that I can find, the perfect solution comes along.
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