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Is It Original Or Copy

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 Posted 07/07/2012  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
thanks for the help

and this? copy?

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 Posted 07/07/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
What holder is that in?
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 Posted 07/07/2012  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Look at the flashing around the edges of the opening of the slab. Doesn't look real.
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 Posted 07/07/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
second coin is in holder
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 Posted 07/07/2012  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have read that almost ALL dates of the double eagle have been copied.
That being said, I have not seen one, perhaps until now.

ms-1: from the pictures of the first coin you have posted I understand your implication for concern. The fields of this coin are a little rough. Compare that with the detail in the fields with the pictures of the second coin you have posted.

Quite often with genuine coins of this type, minor signs of metal flow can be seen on the outside edges of the legends. Although not a reliable indication of a fake, I can see no evidence of metal flow.
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07/07/2012 2:16 pm
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 Posted 07/07/2012  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
sel_69l, thanks a lot :)
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 Posted 07/08/2012  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Do they weigh and measure correct?
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 Posted 07/08/2012  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
for first coin - unknown, dimensions for the second are correct
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 Posted 07/08/2012  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list

Quote:
What holder is that in?


Don't know about the coins, but the second one is in a holder and has been cropped by hand giving the coin edge/rim the uneven, rough appearance that it has.

Oh, and to the family
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 Posted 07/08/2012  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

For me it would be difficult to know for sure if fake or real from those photos. Measuring usually is not a valid method either since any decent counterfeiter would at least make ta fake the same size. Of course weight is probabaly one of the best methods to determine if real or not since not many counterfeiters would use all real materials.
I would suggest prior to purchasing anything expensive, having them authenticated by having the owner send to a TPGS such as NGC or PCGS.
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 Posted 07/08/2012  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
Dear friends, thank you for your warm welcome and your comments. You helped me a lot!
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 Posted 07/08/2012  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list

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second coin is in holder


Yes, but what holder. Post a photo of the entire coin and holder.
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 Posted 07/08/2012  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms-l to your friends list
unfortunately, it is impossible by now. Coins are not my.
and I do not see any reason now to ask the seller additional photos.
The originality of coins is difficult to determine from the photo anyway.

ps: I'm sorry for grammatical errors if they are present :)

Thanks to all for discussion.
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 Posted 07/08/2012  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list


If the seller is in Russia as you are then I would believe they are counterfeit unless there is absolutely positive proof they are genuine. It is much easier for a counterfeiter to pass U. S. coin fakes outside of the USA so be very, very careful and find a coin dealer you can trust.

There are websites which will help you in detecting counterfeits that you can rely upon when you might need to do so.

Good luck and happy hunting in your collecting.

Ed
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 Posted 07/08/2012  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list

I can't say for sure that you have a genuine coin, but I don't see enough evidence to condemn this coin. Many counterfeits of U.S gold coins are stuck and contain gold of proper weight and fineness. Often times the counterfeits have tool marks and or depressions that give the coin away. Those signs sometimes can be hard to see in photos and require an in person examination to spot.
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